I'm just saying that this sort of insane emotional rush is what cements romantic love, that it is invariably initialized by the male (younger men, who are impulsive), and that wealthier men find it more difficult to produce because they usually value the risk higher than the reward.

Some men hardly have any money, but they've become corrupted by other things, like promiscuity, hatred, addiction, or bitterness. They also find it difficult to produce.

It is what it is.

Life wears us down. Our possessions tie us down.

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Don’t be tied down to anything therefore you there’s no risk involved.

It’s a shame for some it has come to this.

Maybe in the further mindsets will change where wealth is involved. πŸ’œπŸ«‚

I think someone wealthy can experience this romantic love, but only if they are willing to risk losing their wealth.

It is a choice that happens in their own heart.

Agreed, and I do understand they would not want to put their hard earned wealth at risk. I certainly wouldn’t either.

It’s a fine line and hard to know to whom and when you can risk it.

Us Aussie have a saying; β€˜gotta risk it for the biscuit!’

Yes, at some point, you have to risk everything or gain nothing. You can't always hold part of yourself back.

That's why it's easier to fall in love when you have nothing to hold back.

And to stay that deeply in love, you have to remain willing to risk everything.

You have to be willing to just end up a pair of poor church mice, holding hands, watching the rain.

If you'd rather keep the house than the mouse, then you've fallen out of love.

Again agree, but are some of the women these days any different to those that just wanted a house, children and food to be provided…now for some(not me) it’s about handbags, shoes, luxury labels and homes. Different generations = different needs, however as long as there’s a happy medium who’s to say what’s right or what’s wrong. Happy wife = happy life for husbands πŸ˜‚πŸ’œπŸ«‚

Oh, I didn't say that it's wrong. Not everyone is built for passion.

I'm just responding to the men wondering why wealthy men rarely get to experience such passion.

Love or money is the classic dilemma. Most people get to have a bit of both, or lots of one or the other. Rare to have lots of both, especially if you start off with the money.

Easier to start off with love and add money, I think. Then you don't have to choose.

I see where you’re coming from.

In my experience with these types of men it could be that they have spent a significant portion of their lives building their wealth and therefore not knowing exactly how to relate or respond to having someone beside them. Others could be way too focused on themselves and value their wealth higher than anyone or anything. I actually feel for both, but then again perhaps that’s their life path and they’re completely happy with what wealth they have. Happiness is different for everyone πŸ’œ

Yeah, they probably wouldn't be happy with "true love" and penniless. They don't actually want it THAT bad. πŸ˜‚

I mean, that's simply the test:

Would you give up X to get Y?

No?

Then you love X more than Y.

Exactly πŸ«‘πŸ’œ

Define true love...

True love is when you give as many X to get Y. So... They don't know what true love is and they underestimate it. They will never learn also. What about you? Do you know?

Oh, I definitely know. I am very blessed. πŸ₯°

🫑🫑🫑

Well, I've never been "in" love. There are folk I love like my daughter and my mum. I'm more than delighted with them and certain other family members. They were the only ones who backed me up through particularly difficult moments moments in life. Too many peeps don't appreciate family enough (if at all) anymore.

Family is precious. πŸ₯°

you should make yourself some babies

Do you mean me?

πŸ€£πŸ˜… Is he referring to both of us?! This got weird REAL QUICK!

πŸ˜‚ We both have kids.

Sorry nostr:npub1twanjtp3mr0ha65uzhug5xvr9vuh6h2gp52pau2rlxy5ta29qqwst5xjqh. One hyperactive six year old is enough πŸ˜….

more smart people need to have more babies that's all I'm saying

I have 4 and a 5th coming soon.

Lol. For a brief sec I thought, "Is he advising Laeserin to have kids together?!" πŸ€£πŸ˜…

I wish I had 10

Did you homeschool any of them?

Or grandchildren?

My bride and I, by the kindness of Jesus our King (and a substantial dose of persistence and bedrock committment😜🀣) hope to celebrate 52 years of marriage in but a few months.πŸ’œβ™₯πŸ«‚πŸŽ‡

Hiya Duncan my beautiful friend!

How wonderful!

I’m incredibly happy to hear this, marriage goals right there!

Here’s to many, many more to celebrate 🍾 πŸ’œπŸ«‚πŸ₯‚

Hello, Sweetie!

Thanks so much for your loving good wishes!πŸ˜ƒπŸ«‚πŸ˜†πŸ’œ

I hope you're doing well?πŸ€”πŸ«‚β™₯

For your amusement, here's a bit more of the story of my "romantic journey" that's culminated in a lasting marriage:

https://peakd.com/poetry/@creatr/bittersweet-glimpses-revisited

Absolutely beautiful my amazing friend, thank you for sharing πŸ’œπŸ«‚

Praise God, congratulations.

Thank you, Brother.πŸ™πŸ»πŸ˜†

Congratulations! πŸ₯³

We just passed 20 years, so we want to be you when we grow up. πŸ˜‚

And felicitations to you and your groom on such a wonderful milestone! May our gracious Lord Jesus yet grant you two blessed multiples of that score!πŸ™πŸ»πŸ˜πŸ’œπŸ«‚β™₯πŸ˜†πŸŽ‡πŸ”₯πŸ’―πŸ‘

Cheers, to that!

Why should they want that?

For ancient Greeks (e.g. the tragedies of Sophokles) when someone feels eros, typically something is about to go terribly wrong, if it hasn't already.

The idea that "passionate desire" is anything to strive for is really a modern invention.

LOL Sucks to be you.

This irrational passion unto death that some men experience is designed to help us better understand the relationship between Christ and His church; to understand the Passion of the Cross.

This is a great mystery because we are never told that He loves us because we deserve it. It comes entirely from inside of Him.

It is His Passion, not ours. We are simply to humbly accept it and deal with our feelings of inadequacy.

It isn't meant to make sense. It is simply what it is.

And, furthermore, being the object of this irrational passion is what experiencing romantic love is for women, and they reciprocate by being grateful and extending trust.

And then they are loved like Christ loves His church and they will tend to be obedient because they will assume he is acting in their best interests, even if they do not deserve it. They feel safe.

And, yes, I have a source for this. 😁

https://biblehub.com/esv/ephesians/5.htm

unfortunately it is also a vulnerability for serpents to insert their venom and poison the whole thing with corruption... which the Lord of this Earth has achieved now at such a gratuitous level to basically almost extinguish the human species at this point

Yes, we are not in Paradise and our rewards now come with risk.

Not yet; but Paradise awaits Jesus/God's own beloved ones...πŸ«‚πŸ˜†πŸš€

Yes, and we can sometimes get a little taste of it. Sip a bit from the springs of Eden. 😊

just make sure it's not jamun berries once again

"hackable animals" so sayeth Noah Harare

just a redux of Bernays Freedom Torches

Is this a promotion of impulsiveness in men? Just curious

I think man is designed in God's image and He made young men impulsive, on purpose. Just as He made young women naive, on purpose.

I think the older people who love such a young person are charged with giving counsel, but we shouldn't try to make them jaded or fearful. That damages their ability to pair-bond.

One need not be a "younger man" to suffer an "insane emotional rush."πŸ˜œπŸ€£πŸ˜‚ It can still happen in one's sixties or seventies... and, I imagine that antediluvian man experienced such delightful surprises all the way into his 900's...πŸ˜ƒ

I fully expect to be "plagued" by romance, by the kind gifting of Jesus/God, quite literally *forever*.

πŸ™πŸ»πŸ˜πŸ’œπŸ«‚β™₯πŸ˜†πŸ‘

Here's a *small* sample from my Romantic Poetry library by way of illustration:

https://peakd.com/poetry/@creatr/small-gifts