overcooked πŸ˜” but really wondering if someone is gonna say, noooo bohemian that's too much cheese for carnivore (also is just meat and dairy carnivore idk what im doing anymore) #foodstr

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Never enough cheese in my opinion. Love some Gruyere.

in my opinion too but figured someone must have a different one πŸ˜‚ but maybe not! πŸ₯³

Overcooked… or undercooked? Lol

I like cheese like a fat kid likes cake.

this steak is overcooked for sure and i luf cheese too πŸ«‚πŸ€™

I'm going on 2 months no coffee or bread. Surprised I can still code. πŸ˜… cheese tho, I nevah gonna give up cheese πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ€πŸπŸ¦œ

no coffee 😳 def eat more cheese πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€u deserve

yes that is the only reason i decided to try this for a few days πŸ˜‚

Cheese and Butter make the 🌎 go round

cc nostr:npub12mx9etcam5cjrpv3p6duqucmff23jeznksll5523fhp6hl6m8mqs83zem9 disagreeable influencer now πŸ˜‚πŸ€™

I approve this meal. Lol.

You're not going to overeat cheese, dairy in general, or meat. Your body will take care of signalling you when to stop, but this assumes no sugars are involved.

lol is that some agreeableness i sense??

no sugars were involved in the making of this pic 🫑

but yogurt is dairy, riiiight? so that is okay to eat?

Boho, you can eat whatever you want. Anything you eat will have consequences, some good, some bad.

The idea is to eat with intent, so that you make your nutritional decisions based on the consequences. An important consequence is your own enjoyment or satisfaction. If you are able to align your own satisfaction with good nutrition, that is what you should do.

I do this by eating meats, eggs, a little cheese, drinking milk occasionally (between 1/2 gal and 1 gal per week), coffee, and very little else. This translates to what is accurately called an ultra-low carb diet, which shifts the body chemistry into a state of ketosis where fats are burned for energy, not sugars.

This approach seems to well for me. It has simplified a lot of things, especially the consequences of ingesting various things.

Are there ways to improve my nutrition, even within this narrow diet? Sure. Food preparation methods, harvesting methods, even the stress level of the animal providing the food can have nutritional effects. I'm not trying to develop the perfect diet, though. I just want to eat with intent, and be informed in my decisions.

When I said that keto has a lot to learn, it wasn't intended as a personal attack. I think keto might be a great place to start really paying attention to what you eat. Unfortunately, most people who try keto either don't get the results they hope for, or never kick the sugar addictions. Some at least get the feeling of having consistent energy levels, and this is enough to keep them thinking there could be something to the whole keto thing, causing them to revisit it.

I actually see it a lot like the bitcoin adoption path. Most don't go all in on bitcoin and stay there, from first exposure to self-described bitcoin maxi. Most get teased back to fiat, shitcoins, diversification, taking profits, etc., then eventually come back around to enjoying the simplicity of hard money.

So I see keto as the Coinbase or Robinhood of low carb diets. And there's a lot to learn as you go down the rabbit hole of dietary sovereignty.

Love you, boho! I know you are more aware than most of your own biology, more aware than I am, and you act with intent, so you are already well on your way with all of this. Don't let me hold you back with my disagreeableness!

well holy hell sedj when you put it like that and compare my diet to a shitcoin casino i am abandoning cyclical keto pronto πŸ˜‚ i most def did not take it as a personal attack. that is one of the 4 agreements that i strive to live by πŸ€™ i am curious and even tho you are disagreeable (so you say) you answer my questions πŸ˜‚

love you too, sedj! keep being disagreeable, fren πŸ’œ i am gonna keep being me...don't you worry i can't not! luckily i am just doing this stuff for fun. i am a big nerd like that. tracking all the metrics, pushing my limits. not looking for any specific results just trying out different ways to eat to see what makes me feel best. and i appreciate your input and wisdom πŸ™

(also gotta just say...i mean geez sedj...a shitcoin casino?! you really go straight for the carotid of a bitcoiner πŸ˜‚πŸ«‚πŸ€™)

Wait - I didn't say shitcoin casino, did I? I actually thought coinbase first, thought maybe I shouldn't name names, typed shitcoin casino, said fuck it, erased it, and wrote Coinbase and Robinhood.

Somehow you read my mind, or at least my intent. Brilliant!

Being disagreeable just means my first inclination is to disagree. It's the way I process new information - first, disagree with it, shoot as many flaming arrows as I can at it, try to break it, hold it up against my present understanding and see every way it doesn't work, before determining some level of importance, letting it go if it doesn't change anything, reaching new understandings where appropriate, and then agreeing.

Agreeing is often the end stage, but not the first stage. It can be tough for people thinking I just shoot their opinions and ideas down, when it isn't my intent, and I welcome their ideas and generally agree with their opinions.

Stating up front that I am disagreeable by nature can help me communicate with others, I've found. Its one of the early things I disclose when working with a new team, and appropriate here as well. It isn't all shitposting and taking the piss with me, promise. I really value the opportunities to interact with and learn from each other through the sharing of ideas.

Case in point, I would love to get some opinions on your dietary fiber / estrogen question. I think it is important.

I was def picking up what you were putting down haha and hmmmm maybe i too am disagreeable when you put it like that πŸ€”

I consider myself a carnivore & frequently experiment.

I have found that cream, milk, "keto" ice cream & cream cheese seem to stall out my weight loss.

Butter, ghee (as cooking oil), plain yogurt, and cheese (particularly Muenster and goat & sheep cheeses) seem not to do so.

I suspect that removal of milk sugars (by bacterial action or human refinement) is the distinguishing factor.

Thank you for sharing your experience πŸ€™

never enough cheese πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€πŸ§€

Animal protein is the high quality food. Dairy is animal protein, so it’s very good.

The only reason carnivores are a bit prejudiced against dairy is because the entire point of milk is to turn a 100 lb calf into a 500 lb heifer in 6 months.

hey doc, good to see you and thanks for chiming in. i imagine that the sole purpose of fattening up a calf in that short of time comes with some unhealthy side effects.

and if i can pick your brain for a min when you have the time: from your md womans health perspective, what is your take on the null fiber intake on carnivore? more specifically, does fiber decrease the chance of estrogenic cancers (bc it binds extra estrogen in the colon) so not having any would increase risk of breast cancer over a lifetime? i know you are busy and i will def dmor but id love to know yay or nay from what you have seen/studied. hope you are very well. πŸ«‚πŸ€™