Nostr Web Client

People have mentioned that nostr adoption is slowed because newbies freak out about all the bitcoin talk. I think that is correct. But the solution is not to try to change what people want to talk about. Bitcoiners gonna bitcoin. The solution is for newbies to be able to find their people, people who talk about whatever they are interested in... .flower arrangement... or motorsport ... or midwifing... or whatever.

Maybe people should express topics in their metadata, and clients should help people find other people to follow via those topics... although I'm not sure exactly. Just a thought.

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hodlbod 2y ago

Ooh that is a very interesting idea. You can't sift through notes organized by topic without reading all of them. But you can find people by topic.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

the first thing i did when i got on here is searched for the term "Kike" and that immediately found all the anti-semites that i wanted to follow. i even wrote a tutorial how to find accounts to follow using Coracle:

https://dissidentsound.discoursehosting.net/t/how-to-find-accounts-to-follow-on-nostr/798

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

Great word to add to my spam filter. Thanks for the nudge.

hodlbod 2y ago

Maybe another person to add as well...

Dissident Sound 2y ago

if you're going to have NOSTR clients and relays engaging in censorship you may as well give government your bitcoin for safekeeping because you're totally missing the point of the technology.

there are only two benefits to NOSTR - anonymity and censorship resistance and you clearly don't get either one because your real-life face is right there promoting censorship.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

You are the one with the misunderstanding. I am not censoring you. Censoring is where one person A prevents other people (not themselves) from hearing person B. If I prevent myself from hearing you, that's not the same thing. Consider the inverse... in your definition, you would be forced to listen to anybody who wanted to talk to you. You'd be forced to read all the spam in your spam folder. That's an insane definition.

And by the way, I'm not a mid-wit. I have done an I.Q. test where I answered all of the questions correctly and they couldn't even score it.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

Just in case some people start thinking I'm some super genius, I should clarify it wasn't an official IQ test. On official IQ tests I scored 155, and when older 147.

Nate Levin 2y ago

Thats a pretty big jump to make mate. Not sure you understand much of this at all.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

It's pretty standard for nazis to think they are super-intelligent, and when the run into evidence to the contrary they retreat back to their cult group where they can be positively reinforced (by shared delusions) and have their mental energy recharged.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

i am willing to debate anybody anywhere anytime on any of the core points of my ideology as expressed on my website.

i am not going to debate anybody on software engineering obviously since i'm not a software engineer.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 2y ago

I don't think you are entirely wrong. But where I think you are wrong, I highly doubt you would change you rmind via debate. So I see it as pointless.

Let's just say that I believe race is so fuzzy of a property that is is a poor way to pre-judge someone. Individual variability is high, and therefore any pre-judgement based on race is a poor way to summarily evaluate people. I actually think pre-judgement based on race and sex and everything else is fine and normal and useful when you have nothing else to go on. But it's not effective enough to close your mind about a person because individual variability is so significant.

I may be wrong but I'm not easily swayed. And you can have a different view. And we can both keep using nostr.

sommerfeld 2y ago

All tags or hashtag systems don't sound very efficient to me.

Both authors and readers need to use tags matching the same spelling and authors need to remeber to do it a priori.

The openess of it means that unfortunately anyone can run bots and completely attack and ruin certain tags. This is solvable with automation and human moderation but unlike with reddit style communities where only a handful of passionate moderators have to clean up, with open tags every user needs to find a way to do it which is terrible UX.

l0k1 2y ago

If anyone other than bitcoiners were writing clients, then probably they would be able to tailor them to target non-bitcoiners.

As far as being repulsive to nocoiners and shitcoiners, that's not a bug, that's a feature.

n 2y ago

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LuisSP 2y ago

another difficulty for nostr:

some important people use social networks not for informational or social reasons, but as a marketing tool to advertise their works, talks, events, art, books, theatrical pieces.

For these people, engagement statistics are very important: it is not worthy their time if they have not engagement, and they will never know if there are no reliable statistics due to the descentralized nature of nostr - besides the fact that people can follow them without even having a "user" (key pair) which could be counted.

And those people tend to carry a lot of folowers with them.

I have seen a couple of them, with tens of thousands followers on twitter, come here, try posting for some time, and then giving up and going back on twitter/insta/FB only.

I think clients and relays should collect as much statistics as it is possible, even partial ones, or even if they are not calculated in "real time". At least as an optional feature.

e.g: could a relay count the number of times my events are fetched by some client? Even if I never have counts from all possible relays which might have copied my event, at least I would have some approximate idea.