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Satoshi was against putting “arbitrary data” (such as messages or images) on the Bitcoin chain. His own messages make three ideas clear:

- Do not put clear messages/data on the chain. On the idea of attaching text to payments, he said: “It would not be wise to have plain text messages permanently recorded... it would be an accident waiting to happen.” He proposed that, if messaging were to be included, it should be a separate system from Bitcoin.

- For non-monetary uses (e.g., DNS), another chain is better. In the BitDNS debate, he explained that stacking other systems on top of the Bitcoin chain does not scale and that “Bitcoin and BitDNS can be used separately; users should not have to download both to use one or the other.” He also pointed out that space on the Bitcoin chain is expensive.

- Concern about “bloat.” He anticipated that Bitcoin users could become “increasingly strict” in limiting the size of the chain and keeping it accessible to many devices.

“Re: Suggestion: Allow short messages to be sent together with bitcoins?” — Oct 23, 2010

Key line: “It would be unwise to have permanently recorded plaintext messages… an accident waiting to happen.” — Satoshi rejects storing messages on-chain and says a messaging system should be separate from Bitcoin.

“Re: BitDNS and Generalizing Bitcoin” — Dec 9–10, 2010

“I think it would be possible for BitDNS to be a completely separate network and separate block chain…” — pushes other uses (like DNS) off Bitcoin.

“Piling every proof-of-work quorum system in the world into one dataset doesn’t scale… Users shouldn’t have to download all of both to use one or the other.” — warns against burdening Bitcoin with unrelated data/protocols.

“Re: Version 0.3.18” — Dec 9, 2010

“I… support a third transaction type for timestamp hash-sized arbitrary data… [so] nodes… don’t need to… index it.” — if you must anchor data, keep it hash-only and non-indexed (minimizes bloat).

Here is proof of how they are trying to change the narrative and purpose of Bitcoin, straight out of the communist playbook.

I've been wasting a lot of time on this lately because it's a blatant attack on Bitcoin, and I'm not going to let it happen just because.

Bitcoin is too important to fail, and we must not leave any loopholes that could be exploited by politicians/the system.

If Bitcoin fails, there is no hope, and that is why Bitcoin has to be conservative. We must only allow changes that improve privacy, nothing else.

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That’s not a waste of time. It only appears like that to Bitcoiners that used to talk about adversarial thinking for years and then fail to practice what they preached the whole time.

Open systems and networks will always have loopholes and knots or anything else can't change that...

Fees and economic incentives protect bitcoin, it was made this way.

"if Bitcoin fails, there is no hope"

But if only 100kb of punishable material enters the blockchain, is there any way to save Bitcoin other than a hard fork?

We simply need to return to the situation prior to Bitcoin Core 26, which has been functioning for 15 years, that is all.

Do you think that Core is going to do a rollback and apologize for been the useful idiots? Better that we prepare the scenario for a hard fork.

Filtering and DDoS rules are not part of the consensus.

And it is not feasible for them to be part of it, given their proactive nature.

This is going to be a battle for users; we need to educate and raise awareness because filters do work if the majority of us use them.

It's look bad, but there's no choice. Odell, Cason, Breedlove, Hodl are on the wrong side.

They all have something in common….Agree. There’s no choice.