In other words what would you say to someone asking you:

What is the easiest way to get a bank account?

I don't want to use banks or the banking system.

I don't want to use fiat.

I'm not willing to disclose any personal information.

??????

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You realize you can create a generic BTC or any other cryptocurrency address totally locally, without any of these. I see your sarcasm right in the first second.

Please check my profile, verification, and my job title. I know a thing or two about crypto, which I've been using since 2013. I'm simplky new to nostr and the lightning network, and don't want to hassle with creating a node, like every other guide uses. I can start with a common one, but don't want to download an app and that's it. None of the crypto exchanges enforce you to use an app, and every example I encountered enforces me to.

Also, comparing this to bank account is utter funny, considering your bio starts with "Freedom"...

Oh and you can s..have your address yourself, you smartie.

Assuming you don't understand my query, I'm okay with a website, just don't want to intall a mobile application, and I never mentioned about not giving my info to any system etc.. You assumed many things..

Just chill man..

Yeah I know some myself.

But untill you read endless posts of people funking up the most basic stuff in horrible stupid ways just because they don't have a clue what they are doing.

So instead of doing research on people, why would I ?, I default only point to the most basic solutions

And that is installing some easy LN wallet that takes minutes and prevents many possible mistakes.

Chill man !

I was chill, you were not. You simply aggressively and allusively responded to me: "I can give you one of my addresses" yeah sure.

A simple "no" would suffice, you know... Also by this answer, as a software engineer myself, I still wonder, why a service could not support me a LN address unless I install a mobile app.

If I can install a node and host myself (I host many things, I host my own Mastodon instance for example: https://micro.arda.pw ), some other people or companies can host as well, and serve this "as a service" by a small fee or free or whatever. Simple logic, right? Why do I have to install an app? I still don't get it. Do you have an answer for this as well?