you do it through micro-communities

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What number of people constitutes a micro-community?

copying the legacy alternatives will not work.

need to provide for new use cases.

Yup :110percent:

Community #interop is such a new use case.

I’ve been thinking of a distributed way to do this, i don’t know how you can get network effect unless it is distributed and connected as well. leveraging the strengths of nostr, instead of just one off isolated relay chats that are hard to discover.

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Nostr is the very first place where Communities can #interop.

Where you go niche, without giving up reach.

Where Communities have pricing and guidelines on an open protocol, so that they can finally offer publishers the huge grey zone in between "publish only here" or "publish on the public square".

Publishers need the ability to target their stuff to the Communities that allow them + are actually interested. On Nostr they can.

Uh... It might just be me having a dumb moment, but, isn't the network effect that "one person draws in many others to their network, which inspires others to join said network"?

People don't join nostr because they think it is a community of "just" bitcoiners.

They do join BlueSky because some of their favorite creators go there too.

They start creating on BlueSky because it is presented to them as a better alternative than Twitter (I hear many artists went to BS because they felt more welcome there)

Communities in Nostr never (really) worked out because people spent forever arguing on how to name them or how to make them accessible. Reddit has r/name, 4chan also had a prefix system...so nostr has n/naddrkajröoilgjsdröofjsdöflkgjhsökldjg - not exactly the easiest to throw a friend while sitting in a bus and chatting :p (it should've just been nip-05 reuse, imho; n/name.tld -> name.tld/.well-known/nostr-community.json -> npub + metadata imho).

Private communities SHOULD stay either on their own relay (making sure that people's private space totally stays private) whilst public ones should be spread as far and wide as possible but advertised with several "core relays".

Again, I could be misunderstanding you in this one, apologies if I did. ^^' But I think it's less of a problem in relay distribution, but more of a... "marketing problem". Making people interested, feel welcome and give them a good reason to join. For example: "You should use Nostr communities because Patreon and Twitch take a cut off of your payment, but we do not." ... however, payments on nostr are crypto, and not that many folks are into crypto, especially creators who just wanna create and have an easy out. So the client, for this kinda system, would have to abstract this away to high oblivion and possibly even offer a custodial service for the ease of use. o.o; I.e., hold an API token to a BitRefill account, which the creator can link, and then use to both receive lightning but also "cash out".

We just don’t have a spec for open communities that is distributed and not top down opinionated on moderation. I’m looking at it through a lens of topics and relays as places where these topics are discussed and moderated.

These topics are universal (like #bitcoin) but the communities around these topics are distributed through time and space. So it’s all connected and global, but local when you want it to be.

I should be able to filter on the sci.physics.quantum topic across the set of all university relays on earth, or the fringe cross section online, or maybe a geographical area.

Communities naturally form around topics, so i find them an interesting connection point that you can build a distributed protocol on top of.

We need to start building / explore things with the unique aspects of Nostr compared to other protocols.

So what can we build with Nostr what is impossible with any other protocol? And how will that a purpose / valuable meaning?

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This stuff makes me think a lot, it’s quite a challenge to not overthink..

File sharing , photo sharing , video sharing , code sharing , blog sharing, fashion sharing , interest sharing ,

How many creators have “help” to produce/publish

many I know

how do they delegate access to their profiles without giving up sovereignty

Pubky (not to be confused with PubKey Bitcoin bar 😂) i saw at nostr:nprofile1qqswhf7zkyg69ragul9s0udwplh0fyx5nkyhh4a3ldwwt5ls6eeearclhrkga El Salvador - they have figured out DNS and delegation. 2 things Nostr hasn’t solved. I don’t work for them - just liked their presentation and solutions for delegation and DNS

Could not agree more.

Nostr without communities (both segregated and connected) will stagnate for a long time, and then die

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Damus is still banned in china . How to used mask to avoid deep pocket inspections so that Chinese can use this nostr protocols . Once Chinese onboard , this protocols will spread like a wild fire .

i have an iphone.