Watching this Moment of Contact documentary about the Varginha incident. Anyone watch this one? What y’all think? 👽🛸
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Yeah I did. It was interesting, not sure what to make of it.
Part of me thinks it was just an elaborate hoax, but it sure as hell seems realistic - especially the girls’ description of the creature and their behavior.
The government seems to be pushing UFO shit recently, which to me is signal that it’s all bs.
100 bullshit psyop distraction. The war against AI to protect citizens by restricting access to the internet is next.
Don’t think it’s that simple, fact or fiction they can bend a narrative to their advantage it doesn’t prove or disprove anything
There’s no compelling evidence that alien spacecraft exist. Just anecdotal observations and blurry videos of random phenomena. Sorry but I need a preponderance of compelling evidence before I’m convinced.
This. All words and no proof of anything.
To deny the possibility is equally as absurd.
That you know of.
True. I’m near Area 51 and I have seen weird shit in the skies over the years. I wouldn’t discount the possibility that we have next gen propulsion tech that’s highly classified.
And did we invent or acquire it?
Invent
How do you know?
Because we don’t buy advanced aircraft from our military rivals
Random question, do you believe in god?
Kinda
Hmm I find it interesting how peoples standard for evidence change from topic to topic. God is one of the most interesting examples. Only explanation I’ve come up with is that brainwashing from a very young age, particularly by parents can last a long time.
Castro understood the power of brainwashing the kids into communism in elementary school.
The final war will be fought against a hoax alien invasion.
~ Wernher von Braun
Where are you watching it?
I kind of find him more believable on JRE just telling the stories than in the movie. Don't get me wrong, the interviews with the witnesses are fascinating and credible but there's just something about the format of the movie and the dramatic music and soundscapes that immediately trip my inner skeptic.
It could be the nature of his leading questions that just made people say what they said. Probably compensated too. I don’t fully buy into it, something felt off.
One thing that is interesting is that all the witnesses are saying they smelt ammonia/sulfur and the smell persisted for days 🤔. Like the guy who did the X-rays for the military. Also a lot of them don’t want to be filmed, so either they are just getting paid to say bs, mass delusion, or … ? 🤔
yeah this jre pod is much better
Had the same feeling in general… I also liked the witnesses, they sound believable… maybe because I know Portuguese, I really think they were saying the truth…
The police officer who touched one of the creatures, died a few days after being wounded by the creature, due to an unknown bacteria.
Psyop bs.
War against AI is also psyop bs.
Until I see an alien bursting out of my neighbors chest, I ain’t buying any of this psyop bs.
Haven’t seen it is it any good?
Depends on how much you value random eye witness testimony. It’s mostly all that, not much hard evidence but it’s somewhat entertaining so far.
Value it as highly as a eye witness in a murder
I think if someone was shown a real alien spaceship inoperatable most would say it is a film prop or rationalize it as a fake. It’s hard for people to believe other beings have visited earth and maybe continue to do so.
thought it was okay, preferred “The Phenomenon” by the same filmmaker. Moment of contact felt less impactful to me for some reason idk why
I couldn’t confirm it for sure, but many years ago I had a somewhat strange experience with a sighting. From there I wonder. Is it possible that we are actually alone in the immensity of the universe? Can our human mind rationally process this question?
I've always felt that our minds have safeguards in place to prevent us from fully grasping questions like this or like what is reality, otherwise we would have psychiatric breakdowns, and some people do
It is possible that our mind is designed to always try to preserve our species, therefore it is not yet prepared to process this type of question where there is no convincing evidence that can confirm or deny that possibility.
It is interesting. Seems a bit difficult to believe much of it though. I do tend to be skeptical of most conspiracy theories and things of that nature though.
Looks like the alien was just a wet, dirty, mentally ill, homeless guy 🤷♂️
Just finished watching. Was pretty disappointing. Not much info.
IMHO we are not interesting for aliens or we are the first kind of intelligent form in the universe.
Some years ago I also saw an interesting idea about that our universe and we as a human species are the same godlike creature but not yet fully developed. So every time we die we remember all the life’s we lived and if we get born again we forget everything until we understand everything and are becoming this fully developed godlike creature.
👽 . Would be arrogant to believe that humans are alone in the galaxy.
I don’t see it as arrogant. Abiogenesis could be really hard. It’s possible that life is extremely rare, like one every galaxy rare or rarer. I lean toward this belief until there is better evidence from exoplanet data.
Super interesting Ill have to look into this. Imo theres a certain arrogance to a scientific explanation for everything. Everyone has different life experiences and almost every view has value.
There is only one truth though ...
Perhaps there are endless species out there, while our sense of time can be unique to us which makes interacting with other life forms whose temporal experience is different impossible.
To get there, I wanna hear how cats hear the world.
Chances are that our universal experience, to understand time as we do, we come to look like life on earth, and to experience time differently, our form becomes alien to us, but to them, they look like we do, and so on.
However i believe that temporal experience is the defining characteristic of life, as time is a fruit of life.
Which fruit would you see as time?
Hi Sarah.
Time itself is a fruit of life. Without life, there is no time.
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And the universe we live in, a reflection of the causalities of our existence, the passing of time both as cause and effect and to alien, we need to understand our universe, which is again a reflection of time, but then we would look like us.
Hey Mainvolume. I cant quite agree with that unless you see anything as life and unless theres nothingness and even nothingness is matter. A black hole could swallow us all up right? Including any planet. As long theres movement theres something that lets one see the passing of time. Human consciousness would just not be present for it. In the same way as when you sleep, your biorhythm that ha been taught by the day and night cycle and outside influences but your mind is not aware of the actual time anymore. Unless you’re in a certain brainwave frequency constantly. But even during sleep a person experience mutiple realities/timelines at once.
I’m afraid a planets temporal relativity shifting from the beholders point of view, to a temporal perspective beyond the horizon of lightspeed, or the wall of light of will, is comparable to swing the lightning go off but the thunder awaits.
The planet itself doesn’t change.
Regarding our own experience of time, life as we know it, for us to experience life form beyond our time, guessing the possibility is not impossible once understanding the universe.
The search for an intentional apex intentional creator to blame our false cored scientific understanding on is a flawed and misleading method.
I think the human nervous system would experience an overload of information. Could also be painful. Cats are incredible creatures in how they navigate the overload of environmental stimulus.
When it comes to how humans experience time and which rhythms they follow the school/vacation cycle is still so ingrained into the daily reality that I often question how many actually create “new” things instead of adapting/repeating something that holds no real truth.
I don’t think that cats nervous system would overload our cerebral cortex, yet considering the physical difference in ear and optics function, I believe the experience of time itself is different, but yet possible for human brain to be able to adapt to would we be able to record and experience the sensory sensations like the movie Strange Days.
Maybe we can’t just “see” them with our senses, after all the visible spectrum is very small… and yes we have instruments but they may be limited in some way we don’t know yet…
Intelligent life is indeed quite rare, considering that multicellular organisms only emerged 600 million years ago, while single-celled organisms dominated the Earth for over 4 billion year.
But the thing is universe is 13.8 billion years old and we can't even comprehend the scale. Very unlikely we are the only intelligent one.
At the end of the day it's probability.
While time itself is not linear, since the quantum possibilities of causalities are not linear causalities are not unidirectional, else how would we remember?!
Why is our memories not absolute? Because time is not static.
Now is the sum of all the time lived comparable to a song playing.
And the reason why time has existed longer than life, is because the causalities of past time is not linear in complexity when looking back but our time calculations are, since that’s how long the luminar temporal projection can be calculated.
Time as gravity has inertia since the gravity is an effect of time, and gravity creates mass, and mass is temporal change and compression, which in turn adds to temporal complexity, which the quantum state is explained as uncertainty when not observed or chaos in entropic motion.
Temporal centric theory is a much simpler explanation to describe our experiences of reality, instead of disregarding the very essence of reality, which is what?! 
Without uncertainty, where nothing can be certain, the fear of the unknown implodes.
Scientific management by fear becomes a quite entertaining joke.
The unknown is coming to get us. 
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Crazy person?!
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Feeding the unknown with fear somehow does question the validity of sanity.
Like mothering terror.
How you doing, Sarah? You need to talk to someone about those issues?!
Quantum mechanical theory wanting uncertainty to justify fear mongering doesn’t make a scientific case. 
Where is the rebel bass?!
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Is there an issue with a person trying to learn about topics that are interesting.
You seem to be a very well educated person. I dont respect ppl being rude due to what?
Terror lives on this planet due to arrogant men. Im no ones mommy.
Not seen that documentary, but the Fermi Paradox raises an interesting point (on assumption they haven’t visited) that alien life could have existed for a few billion years before us and should therefore be “everywhere”. We do all seem to be from the same original life form on this planet don’t we as well? That said, we seem to have popped up relatively early into the age of the Universe.
Personally, I won't care until I see something for myself in real life. So far all I have seen are blurry videos. And from now on, if there are high resolution videos, it's too late, because I can't trust them, because they might just be generated by AI.
Do I think we are alone in the universe? I don't - But as long as we don't find ways to travel faster than the speed of light (maybe in the distant future?) I focus on the things that are imo important for us as humanity right now -> #Bitcoin ✌️
I need more evidence to really believe it. Watched it after listening to james fox JRE podcast - I think the most interesting thing is politicians calling for more transparency and release of documents.
The idea that aliens started visiting us after we detonated nukes is an interesting hypothesis.
Def worth more investigation.
Aliens are real, except they are demons and not from some distant planet.
“One thing such filmmakers hope you never do is go back and read the original newspaper accounts, because what you tend to discover is that almost nothing particularly interesting happened — until later years festooned the facts with embellishments.”
Sure, man. I went to Varginha late 2022. Awesome.
That’s all truth man.