Nostr Web Client

I think the new user experience where you find people but also feel like they find you and hear you is important. Instagram and Twitter do a amazing job of promoting new users so they quickly feel engagement.

We need to do that better in nostr. nostr:note19880cmvkvvm2yke5gee2gxzsvkfn33nlqrg3q4wc79ukdxqu36lqt7jn89

yunginter.net 2y ago

I’m not sure follow to unfollow strategies count as valued engagement.

when nostr was relatively spamless on the open relays new users got scooped up and attacked with love more than I’ve seen on any social network.

I do believe relays should be paid (even more than we pay now). I think relays picked up slack when the clients were in early development and a ton (and still do) on their plate, by solving this issue externally, and it was a good reason to pay for a relay, aside from the principle of paying for something you consume. Im not sure it’s the right solution for spam, and that might be solved by the client in a way that would also surface these new users much better.

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nen 2y ago

interesting, bc i don’t see spam as a problem – one day nostr will grow to such an extent, that even filtered from spam global feed will be unreadable – that’s why different algorithms will be created – and ppl will use them 🤔

yunginter.net 2y ago

Although I agree a gobal feed sans spam at scale might be a bit unwieldy, you could still pull up new people from that to reach that scale. I think we’ve lost many early adopters who just stumbled upon in the switch to paid relays… them not seeing us with out a ton of spam, and us not seeing them through that ton of spam.

yunginter.net 2y ago

In other words, spam isn’t the problem, the solution to spam is a problem for new user experience. Presumably a algo based solution would be client based. I think we are saying the same thing.

OriginalSize 2y ago

Can you recommend any paid relays? The one I paid for wouldn't stay connected but maybe cuz I'm a new account.

yunginter.net 2y ago

look to #[5] Eden is pretty stable, at first there was some downtime with all of them, the three on my list seem to always be up

I haven’t joined wine yet, but everyone raves, haven’t spent the time to wrap my head around all their filtering features, I should probably fit that in tomorrow

https://nostr-wine.github.io/filter-relay/

yunginter.net 2y ago

this one isn’t paid, and not sure enough people have added it to prove its worth, the timing was alongside the paid relays so didn’t get breath to properly test. but it’s a relay that requires nip 05 instead of payment

wss://nostr-verif.slothy.win

yunginter.net 2y ago

wss://relay.orangepill.dev is also a good paid relay, and https://orangepill.dev has some really good technical docs on nostr