The United States with all the energy post 9/11 couldn't subdue Afghanistan or Iraq after 20 years. You really think a war with the country that sits between them, who has better organization and resources would be *easy*?

And even if you did manage to topple that government, what then? You really want less stability, more poverty and more death in that region? Because that's exactly what you'll get.

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Of course that's what they want.

Yeah pretty sure that's what the psychopaths want

It’s not about winning or being easy it’s about making money from death and destruction. Foreverwars

Whatever Israel want Israel gets.

Yep

It's their Ego. When Ego dies humanity wakes upp.

Fair point. Nevertheless the people there long for freedom. They are educated, they are global citizens, they know how to use BTC.

Chaos and instability for as long as possible while the government's croneys plunder the area and people and each defense contractor earns seven golden arseholes. That's how US loses its wars these days, they're meant to be neither ended nor won.

I say leave them all alone, and completely destroy them if they start trouble for Americans. No crybaby nonsense about deaths. You fuck around, you find out. Swift and brutal. But peace and harmony otherwise. Free trade. All the wonderful stuff. We need to reign in the military industry though. And shrink government control to have all that good stuff like free trade.

We could have ended Afghanistan and Iraq easily but chose not to. There is a difference. But I also think restraint can become weakness at a point. It did in those cases.

You sound like a jew

Oh, c’mon. There no way this whole war thing could go wrong. 🤷🏼‍♂️

The goal isn't successful wars... it's never-ending war

That's exactly what Peter Todd would like to see.

They are on the same land for the last 6.000 years, US is not the first try to take them down. Everybody knows what happened in Vietnam right? And what would be the result of WW2 if there was no Russia in the equation? Russia is in the other side of the equation now.

They just wanted the resources of those countries. Including drugs. They don't give a damn about how they leave those countries after the war. War is business 🤷‍♂️