The block explorers are the whole problem bro. That's why we got rid of them. Learn the lesson. If you've got a block explorer, you've got a very serious privacy problem.

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Every blockchain based cryptocurrency has a block explorer my guy. It’s just that with Monero you can’t see who’s sending money to who and how much

True, but the lightning network does not have a block explorer, so I recommend using that instead

Oh yeah and with monero, every transaction publishes a list including the sender, the recipient, and partial amount info (specifically, the fee paid). It's on every monero block explorer, go take a look.

Alright, since you don’t seem to be learning by people telling you the same fact and correcting you over and over, how about you learn by doing.

I challenge you to trace the transactions associated with the #monero donation address in my bio. Good luck, you are going to need it. You’ll also need a quantum computer that doesn’t exist yet.

My apologies, coracle decided to crap out

Not everything works like bitcoin. The address on the block explorer is a stealth address that is not the actual address of the wallet.

The wallet alone can spend from it. It's the wallet's address and no one else's.

Monero's blocks store public historical data that proves random strangers around the world transacted money following the rules and no one trusts each other but still can't cheat on each other. This sets a history of all-look-equal transactions that make up the current state of balances and histories that only key holders know the details, like what the hidden amounts are. A LN payment on the other hand is routed A -> B -> C with all amounts being visible from sender until it reaches the destination, now which privacy is better 1) all-look-equal txs with hidden amounts, or 2) plain text, amount visible, routed payments where A -> B -> C, but B can be a FED making public profiles?

Routing nodes do not know what amount is being transmitted. They only know the amount *they've* been asked to forward, they have no idea if that's the full amount.

I don't know what persuaded monero guys that publishing their transactions is good for their privacy but it's an obvious problem that bitcoin fixes.

Monero guys believe in trusting no one, so with XMR I can only send a tx that 1) no one can stop from being mined 2) no one else knows the details. On LN nothing stops colluding routing nodes from creating a graph/profile of LN users and their activities and knowing the full amount transmitted, and nothing stops routing LN nodes from simply censoring certain senders/receivers on their route.

Not good, we like privacy and censorship resistance above all, even if txs are "published", or permanent

Bitcoin got rid of block explorers? Interesting.

> Bitcoin got rid of block explorers?

Yes, we use lightning now. You should try it! Freedom from block explorers, dude! It's an amazing thing

I’m running a Lightning Node for a long time, dude. And I can guarantee you that LN won’t work without the underlying blockchain, and with the bc, there comes the bc explorer.