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😁 people always ask this.. and that's all good. But there is not just one answer.

The measurement I tend to use is *not how many people use the relay.tools instance, but how many install it and use it with their own networks and servers. So far, that number is less than I had envisioned (1-3 that I know of). Also I can see many of the reasons why and I know what needs to happen.

The instance I run currently has approx 60 relays and .. (hundereds?) of relay members. This is probably more what you were wondering about.. I don't tend to do a lot of marketing either, because expanding this instance past what it already is, that just isn't really my main goal here. To be distributed there needs to be many instances.

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if you don't mind me asking, what is your main paid gig to enable you to do all this? be general, of course, no need to be detailed, i'm just curious. i got lucky, first, with a shitcoin/nostr gig for 18 months and now part of one of the most important nostr marketplace projects (and one of the first). very grateful for that, and also for having become part of two other projects that are using my skills and relay.

i guess i'm asking, actually, to understand better so i can apply my brain to maybe spotting an opportunity that you haven't yet

i would name-drop on all of the above but some of the people have continued to be hostile to me since this all started and others deserve privacy

ɪn mʏ ᴅeꜰense, ᴛʜe sʜɪᴛcoɪn/nosᴛr ɢuʏs were naɢɢɪnɢ me ᴛo aᴅoᴘᴛ aɪ ᴛooʟs ꜰor coᴅɪnɢ, anᴅ ᴘroʙaʙʟʏ ᴛʜaᴛ wouʟᴅ ʜave ʜeʟᴘeᴅ a ʟoᴛ esᴘecɪaʟʟʏ on ᴛʜe ɪn-ʜouse ᴘroᴊecᴛ ᴛʜaᴛ was mʏ ʟasᴛ ᴛʜɪnɢ wɪᴛʜ ᴛʜem. ʙuᴛ ʜonesᴛʟʏ, cʟauᴅe was ʙareʟʏ maᴛure aᴛ ᴛʜaᴛ ᴘoɪnᴛ as ꜰar as ɪ unᴅersᴛanᴅ ɪᴛ, anᴅ reaʟʟʏ, ɪᴛ ʜas onʟʏ ʙeen sɪnce oᴘus was reʟeaseᴅ anᴅ seᴛ ᴛo ᴅeꜰauʟᴛ ᴛʜaᴛ ᴛʜe ᴛooʟ reaʟʟʏ ʜas maᴛureᴅ. ɪn ᴛʜeɪr ᴅeꜰense, ɪ unᴅersᴛanᴅ ᴛʜe moᴛɪvaᴛɪons ʙeʜɪnᴅ wʜʏ ᴛʜeʏ were so ꜰocuseᴅ on creaᴛɪnɢ a socɪaʟ neᴛworᴋ ʙuᴛ ᴅesᴘɪᴛe mʏ consᴛanᴛ naɢɢɪnɢ ᴛʜeʏ never wenᴛ ꜰuʟʟ nosᴛr-ᴛarᴅ. wʜɪcʜ was a ʙɪɢ mɪsᴛaᴋe, ʙuᴛ aɢaɪn, ᴛʜeʏ were runnɪnɢ ouᴛ oꜰ ꜰunᴅɪnɢ anᴅ ᴛoo mucʜ was ɢoɪnɢ ᴛo ꜰunᴅɪnɢ worᴋ ᴛʜaᴛ reaʟʟʏ was ɢoɪnɢ nowʜere. anᴅ ɪ never ʜear aʙouᴛ ᴛʜe ɢuʏ wʜo connecᴛeᴅ me ᴛo aʟʟ ᴛʜɪs sᴛuꜰꜰ, anᴅ ᴘaveᴅ ᴛʜe waʏ ꜰor me ᴛo ʙecome a reʟaʏ ᴅev sᴘecɪaʟɪsᴛ, ʙʟess ʜɪm, ɪ ʜoᴘe ʜe ɪs ᴅoɪnɢ oᴋ, ɪ ᴅo ꜰeeʟ ᴛʜaᴛ ʜe was ᴅone a ʜarm ʙʏ ʜow reaᴅɪʟʏ ᴛʜeʏ ᴛʜrew moneʏ aᴛ ʜɪm, ᴛo ᴅo ᴛʜɪnɢs ᴛʜaᴛ ᴅɪᴅn'ᴛ ᴛurn ouᴛ ᴛo ʜave marᴋeᴛ reʟevance.

ɪ was ɪn a ɢenuɪneʟʏ ᴅɪꜰꜰɪcuʟᴛ sɪᴛuaᴛɪon wʜen ᴛʜe ꜰɪrsᴛ ᴛʜɪnɢ ᴘoᴘᴘeᴅ ouᴛ, anᴅ ɪᴛ was ᴛʜanᴋs ᴛo ʏou (ʙro, ɪ can'ᴛ ᴛʜanᴋ ʏou enouɢʜ ꜰor ʜeʟᴘɪnɢ me wʜɪʟe ɪ was on ᴛʜe ʙones oꜰ mʏ arse) anᴅ ʙecause oꜰ ᴛʜaᴛ, ɪ ꜰeeʟ a ᴅeʙᴛ oꜰ ɢraᴛɪᴛuᴅe ꜰor ɪᴛ. so ɪ wɪsʜ ɪ couʟᴅ ʜeʟᴘ someʜow.

tmi for nostr blast, but I'm on simplex, irc or nip17. i think it's cool you're helping with the marketplace!

ᴛʜaᴛ's wʜʏ ɪ was cauᴛɪous. ɪ ᴅon'ᴛ neeᴅ ᴛo ᴋnow, reaʟʟʏ, ᴅo ɪ? nor ᴅo ʏou reaʟʟʏ neeᴅ ᴛo ᴛeʟʟ me, ʙuᴛ ɪꜰ ʏou cʜecᴋ mʏ ᴘroꜰɪʟe ʏou can ꜰɪnᴅ me ꜰor a more ᴘrɪvaᴛe mɪʟʟɪeu.