Nostr Web Client

There is not a lot of privacy if you use SimpleX or Signal with the company's default servers. The servers can see a lot of the metadata.

That is why I fundamentally think Nostr is better for DMs than anything else. The choice of the DM inbox relay here is at the forefront of the user experience.

And if you don't trust any server, you can always and easily do P2P DMs in nostr such that the messages never reach any relay.

frphank 1y ago

nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 servers don't see a lot of metadata, no. Maybe IP addresses.

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Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

IP + channel + date and time of messages + payload size. And if you use the same server for all your contacts (which is what everybody does) then they can see the group of channels you talk to. If both sides use the same server (which is common) the server can map IP to IP, geolocate the pair. Track IP over time and you can isolate work/home locations and from there you can know who the person is, with good probability of sucess.

frphank 1y ago

I think we've discussed this before, I think IP protection is the job of another layer.

From what I remember what you have in mind you want a set of nostr relays to perform a sort of mini-Tor routing. Dunno about that how that works and whether that's not the wrong layer.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Sure, nostr could also use extra layers. But COULD doesn't matter. It's either there by default, for everybody, or it's not solved.

frphank 1y ago

If you want nostr or SimpleX to solve the IP masking problem then you don't understand tech stacks. We use different solutions for different layers in our tech landscape, instead of bundling layers with apps.