Subnostr

We can compare the feature set of both options:

Wasabi:

- no mandatory amounts

- minimum of 5000 sats

- maximum of 40000 bitcoin

- inputs can be consolidated privately in coinjoin

- all output are private, no toxic change

- minimum of 150 inputs, up to 400 inputs and 400 outputs

- high remix ratio

- private payment batching in coinjoin

- hardware wallet signing

- taproot support

- can open lightning channels in coinjoin (not yet implemented)

- optimized to use little blockspace

- everyone pays for how much blockspace he consumes

Whirlpool:

- mandatory pool amounts

- minimum 100000 sats

- maximum 0.5 bitcoin

- tx0 common input ownership leak

- tx0 non-private output, toxic change

- 5 inputs and 5 outputs

- fixed remix ratio

- no payments in coinjoin

- no hardware wallet signing

- not optimized for blockspace efficiency

- blockspace fee of recurring users is paid by fresh users

- postmix tools instead of payments in coinjoin

Thanks for the list of positives of wasabi and negatives of whirlpool. Could you steelman the case and list pros of whirlpool over wasabi?

Also, is there any truth about wasabi working with coin surveillance firms or was that just FUD?

Please Login to reply.

The tradeoffs of samourai are probably so to get it working on mobile, small rounds and xpub leak blockchain synchronization mainly.

At the current low fee rate, radically optimizing for blockspace efficiency might be premature.

Postmix tools are a reasonable shortcut if payments inside coinjoins isn't yet possible.

note16uwxefzwvpr4gwv78g29x5d3we4s282432sezn04jc7dss9dcg7q7m9npp