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Care to address the point I made?

Did Trump fly the flags at half staff when actual elected representatives were killed? Why the double standard? We only honor the dead when they are the president's friend?

Did any elected democrat say callous things like Mike Lee did after those democrats were murdered? Which clearly even he realized were wrong (or perhaps he couldn't stand the backlash) so he deleted the comments?

We talk all day about how bluesky, x, facebook are full of bots sowing dissent and how the algo sucks and that is why we use nostr. Then your 'evidence' is a bunch of stuff from those platforms we all decry daily?

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donuts 4mo ago

Trump knew Charlie personally, its really as simple as that. Get out of your bubble, go browse reddit.

The Stacker Monster 4mo ago

So Trump (the president of the entire united states) lowers the flags for someone he knew personally. But when two elected officials are assassinated, he does not lower the flag, because... he doesn't know them personally?

Is that your argument? Does this make sense to you and/or feel acceptable?

donuts 4mo ago

Also, bots don't post memes about someone dying. Kind of a shit argument. Obviously to see people on the left, you have to go where they are. That's how you avoid living in an echo chamber.

The Stacker Monster 4mo ago

So you're still ignoring the points I made in the post while trying to change the argument to what you'd like to argue. Got it.

Good luck to ya my friend

donuts 4mo ago

Yes he should fly flags at half staff whenever anyone politically associated dies. Now that I've addressed that, what do you think about the left celebrating charlies death?

The Stacker Monster 4mo ago

Great, I'm glad we agree he should have flown the flags at half staff when 2 elected Minnesota lawmakers were murdered. But when he chose to not do that, but to lower the flags immediately after personally announcing the murder of a right wing political podcaster/influencer, it comes across as very divisive. "If my team gets hurt, we mourn, if your team gets hurt, fuck em." That is what makes it feel like "there is a war about to erupt", its that type of attitude.

In terms of your second question, I think people (and bots I guess) are free to do what they want. I don't like celebrating someone's death personally, but I also don't like many other things I see people do on social media or in real life, but I don't try to control them or change that behaviour.

If an elected representative on the other hand were to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk (or the Minnesota lawmakers like a republican senator did), there likely should be consequences for that action because of the position and power they hold. I think politicians should be held to a higher standard in general vs. the regular public, but unfortunately I think we actually allow them a much much lower bar.

I also generally am not a fan of super broad terms like "the left". I've seen so many people use the following terms interchangeably (I can't blame them as the president himself, their leader, taught them to do this through repetition): the left, communists, democrats, fascists, radical left, etc...

I lean left of center most of the time (although I didn't vote for Kamala and I did vote for George W) so would consider myself a moderate democrat. I don't want to be associated with the 1-5% "radical left". Similar to how I assume you may lean right of center (maybe not?), but you may not want to be associated with the far right radical elements that exist in that party.

We've drifted towards using super divisive language (starting from the top with the prez) which is a very common divide/conquer tactic used throughout history by the rich/powerful to control the masses.

I'd imagine in real life, if we were to share a meal, we'd agree on 80%+ of issues and perhaps even enjoy each others company.

The Stacker Monster 4mo ago

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The Stacker Monster 4mo ago

I'd also add this post from twitter I read earlier today that may help explain where a lot of people are coming from:

Kirk should not have been killed. I have empathy for his daughters, his wife, his family, and his friends.

But my compassion has limits. I didn’t care for Charlie. He showed no empathy for others, and his words and actions dehumanized people.

You don’t get to be outraged when others don’t extend compassion toward him. That doesn’t mean we’re celebrating his death.. it means we’re human. It means our compassion has limits.

This is the limit..

MAGA you have no compassion for the people you despise, you had no compassion for the Dem Rep Hortman and her husband when they were murdered in their sleep... You had no compassion for Nancy Pelosi’s husband.; So spare us the selective outrage. This lack of compassion isn’t something unique to MAGA, we see it in all groups.

Violence comes from individuals who are unwell or hateful. Their politics and actions don’t always reflect the core values of a movement.

I am a conservative at heart. But MAGA is not conservatism. It’s extremism and division wrapped in cheap appeals to Christianity and patriotism. Nothing you show proves otherwise.