I miss the simplicity of Astral, but it hasn't been updated since last spring. No client is perfect, but I don't believe Primal deserves all of the hate they get. Everything is open. They have clients for Android, iOS, and the web. They were funded by Bitcoin companies. As for trying to hard or being needy, I think they need to try harder! They have finding for a marketing budget and team. They need to market the hell out of their products and brand. This is how we reach the masses.

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I didn't mean to imply anything negative towards the people at Primal, just hopefully critical feedback to the product itself towards improvement. I apologize if it came off differently.

To be clear, I mean the design itself is "needy", in the way of trying to fit in the fiat mainstream social media design expectations which isn't really selling itself in the best way.

Thank you for clarifying.