Far less. This is what she posted…
"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it."
And you have me muted for being "mentally ill" 🫠
If we are going to win, we need to learn grammar, logic AND rhetoric. "Set fire to all the fucking hotels..." is counter productive. DO NOT BE EMOTIONAL IN YOUR RHETORIC. They will always use it against you. Be logical. They can not defend against a logical assault.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO CHECK THEIR FUCKING EMOTIONS AT THE DOOR.
While I may be put off by ur emotions I will defend ur right to express them in the words you choose … no matter how strongly I disagree
Imho … Dissent is the greatest defense against tyranny
Although I strongly agree with your sentiment which, unless I am mistaken, is that there is wisdom in dissent without offense
I don't disagree. My point is not to be hyperbolic with rhetoric.
Yes but it seems this young woman is being jailed for “rhetorical hyperbole” which has been judged in the opinion of a tyrannical government with the power to jail to be “hate speech”
…the problem in my eyes with “hate speech” is that it seems to be an arbitrarily defined entity that is determined through a political (often self serving) lense
I still support this young emotional mother’s right to say something hyperbolic (and even stupid) and the right of people that disagree to let her know with their own free speech (hyperbolic or not)
…and I support your right to point out how unhinged their rhetoric may sound and my right to point out how far we’ve strayed from the path of “he who governs least governs best”
Completely agree
Knowledge comes from the senses. Yet, experience need not lead to knowledge. For between sensation and reason lies emotion and passion which may distort experience into error even as it distorts desire into vice.
— Will Durant, about the Stoic philosophy in The Life Of Greece, Vol II, The Story of Civilization
Better set that emotion aside when conveying things of importance.
That old chestnut...
So she did called for violence against a group of people for what individuals did. The "for all I care" makes it a bit less instructive. 2 years in jail is indeed a bit crazy if that's really all there is to it. :/
This would not meet the legal definition of incitement in America
Idk man. People are fuckin’ crazy to say shit like that tbh lol.
I'm not a lawyer. I'm just speaking from the gut feeling which is certainly influenced by my German upbringing where we have less free speech than in the US.
I guess, the more you restrict "hate speech", the more you sensitize the population to the issue and then even moderate speech will sound like "hate speech".
Apparently there is no clear link between hate speech laws and actual physical violence. Is "hate speech" maybe a release valve that can also prevent actual acts of violence?
There’s no such thing as hate speech
