Great episode - but listen to Murch on nostr:nprofile1qqstnem9g6aqv3tw6vqaneftcj06frns56lj9q470gdww228vysz8hqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcpqenm4 Audible for another perspective. Pretty sure Luke has come a bit around to the core “side” since this pod was recorded.