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It's not "their" data. Data is data. Analyze it.
You mean made up data?
If it's made up, then it should be easily disproven through... Analysis...
Then they call you conspiracy theorist. Or worse: criminal
Facts are facts š¤·š»
True. Hard to know what is fabricated. Everyone has an agenda. Facts are gathered by people. No one knows everything. Wish it was that easy. And some things can not be 100% proven.
The nature of science.
"Trust the Science"
Luckily, the scientific method doesn't require trust. Verify.
How many scientific studies on modern pharmaceuticals have you done personally?
You perform the scientific method every time you take one.
Sounds like rigorous analysis.
No way to know for sure unless you're bold enough to try it yourself. I manage risk accordingly. "Experimentimg with drugs" Is usually pretty safe if following rec dosge and understanding the type of drug you're putting in your body. For instance I think most opioids benzo and stimulant pharmacudicals have far too many adverse side effects and potential health risks and dependencies just by observing data to warrant me personally using any ever.
So you get it.
Most psychedelics are fuckin rad though.
In todays corrupt world, anyone can pay anyone to have any data that supports whatever they want.
Thatās why people believe so much bullshit; because itās published in a journal it must be true. Then people paid to spread doubt on behalf of institutions turn oneās common sense against themselves. We are gaslit to unbelievable extremes to our detriment.
But hey, trust the āscienceā because it massively enriches those who fabricate it.
Cool, next time you get a col, don't get antibiotics for it. Headache? Deal with it. Can't trust aspirin.
All I am saying is there is a line. Discounting modern medicine completely is not only ignorant of facts, it's dangerous.
It's about as dangerous as hate speech and misinformation. Personally, I draw the line at taking experimental injections for a "flu".
I mean, are you seriously taking pills because you have a headache?
Yea if I have a headache, I take an aspirin or some goodies powder. Wild I know. Caffeine and asprin are such exotic substances.
Have you thought of drinking a mineral water or taking electrolytes?
Bruh I drink a gallon of water a day.
Mineral? Test the water, you're looking for high magnesium, potassium, chloride, calcium and sodium.
When I first went carnivore I was salting my meat and drinking water mixed with various salts and supplementing magnesium.
I would get light-headed/dizzy when standing too quickly.
After a while I stopped all the salt (don't even add it to meat any more) and now I don't get light-headed any longer.
I do sometimes drink mineral water, mostly because I enjoy the bubbles in carbonated water. Mostly I drink very pure water (fluoride removed).
Lol try fighting cancer with natural medicine. RIP Steve Jobs.
He apparently went for fruits - feeding the cancer with sugar.
It's worse than that. His pancreatic cancer was actually the very small minority that could have ended up NOT killing him.
But he ignored Western Medicine :)
Damn, to fight cancer you just have to avoid sugar? Like, seriously, all you have to do is just deplete your body of all energy stores? Man why didn't anyone else think of that?
You can start your own research for this concept with āWarburg effectā and āAnti-Warburg effectā
Thats all I can help, you donāt need to thank me.
Itās not a cure for all cancers, but it can certainly help with many. If someone has medically induced cancer thanks for āmiraculousā pharmaceutical injections developed at the speed of science, then fasting and avoiding sugar probably isnāt going to help at that point.
Or you can give chemo, actual poison, a shot at curing oneās cancer while destroying the rest of the body.
People sucked in mainstream medicine will forever deny the fact that nobody can tell them what cancer actually is, but will repeat to death "fighting it". The concept of not-living cells/pathogens attacking the living body is literally the con on which the entire industrialized medical industry is based.
Helth! or "When the solution is the poison killing your body, proudly pretending to help you since the 19th c.!"
Unironically yes, although "sugar" has to include starches as well
Most cancers require glucose to live
If you go on a keto or carnivore diet your body will still make a small amount of glucose but mostly you'll operate on fat and ketones
Guanabana has profound anti-cancer properties. Very difficult to procure outside of South America though.
This āsugar feed cancerā is very good example for the Bell curve meme phenomenon IRL.
Those on right curve easily believe it and become the āfewā that thrive without having to understand it deeply.
Many (in the middle of the curve) heard this but ignore because it sound like BS (especially in current medical textbooks)
But for those in the right curve those who actually put their proof of work into lengthy research and reading thru wall of texts
They become the fews that actually understand this and agree with the fews in the left curve
Yes, you can fend off cancer more effective (or even with very minimal chemotherapy) with your own āNatural house keeping mechanismā in your own body.
You can start your own research with ā2016 nobel prize in physiology or medicineā.
Or if you want to start with something more practical, you can start your own research with āDr.Valter Longoā.
Thereāre huge information for this health pill rabbit hole, so I canāt digest everything for you (especially if you walled yourself from understanding them). Its your own and your loved ones health (not mine) so you should DYOR.
Iām not forcing you to do the research, its your choice to take the pills.
Ps. Iām not forcing you to trust this, Iām actually a licensed pharmacist (I mainly work in industrial sector, not clinical tho, but I also work in clinical sector as part-time).
And I found a lot of these ānatural house keeping mechanismsā make more senses than a lot of clinical practice guidelines. 
Someone's running a fasting clinic in Cali(?), where they managed to cure cancer and made all the scientific paperwork, but I feel like it's not Longo. Am I wrong?
I dunno, data is somehow abundant but also limited, because thereāre no ācentral guidelines issuersā. Just those who practices and sharing their results. There could also be some deviation among different practioners, but I think thereāre also some major intersection point such as avoid ultra-processed food, avoid seed oil, eat real food.
Because its a free market, everyone doing and eating what suits them best. And difference in culture, food preferences can lead to some small different among them.
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So true, same goes for economics.
Itās scary how deep the rabbit hole goes; itās like every single institution is rotten down to the bone, eaten away at by conflicts of interest, appeal to authority and circular referencing
The circular reasoning of the masses is "how come your magic cure for cancer isn't in the news already?"
Hello?
There is one. It's called fasting. Nobody want to take it seriously because it doesn't make money.
Any good resources on guidelines for fasting? (How often, how long, etc.)
Start with skipping meals, don't push it. We all are eating way too much.
Good channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUp8SWTLsEC6Mn8ExztMIjA watch all of Dr. Pradip Jamnadas videos.
Great resource list - have some listening and reading to do. Thank you!
Here is my guide, based on what I did in an experiment of sample size 1:
Do high protein, extremely low carb (keto). Eat plenty of salt and whole food low carb, high protein things like beef, broccoli, fish, eggs, soybeans, spinach, organ meats, almonds, whatever, to get you into the fasted state. You can also eat these during your fast as a crutch if full-on fasting is too much (this food actually keeps you in the fasted state and does not break the fast, so it's not a cheat). Track everything with an app called cronometer, and set your protein requirement high. It's fine if you don't hit the target since the goal is to fast.
Drink water and have some salt with every meal and through the day. You will lose a lot of water weight for the first week or so. Fast or do keto for at least 10 days for a good solid benefit. I would recommend a month. When you eat keto and are in the fasted state, you will barely even feel like eating. Makes it easier to jump to a full-blown fast. If while fasting you start to get a headache or have strong cravings for greens or fish or almonds or beef or whatever, eat it. Your body knows what you need. Headache can also come from a lack of salts and water.
You can also do things like one meal a day, but I don't recommend that unless you're eating high protein low carb. It's not very beneficial otherwise and can lead to headaches and metabolic swings if you eat a lot of carbs and not enough protein, and you get no benefit out of that. I got into a rhythm of eating 2 to 3 meals one day with about 2200 Calories, and 1 meal the next with only 1500 Calories, on repeat. My maintenance Caloric intake is considerably above 2200. I lost about a kilogram of fat per week and actually gained muscle, gained better mood, better energy, better focus, gained all kinds of things.
At the end of your fast, if you feel like you want to eat carbs again, and you don't want to watch Black Tie Kitchen on YouTube for lower carb recipes for the same foods, then simply gradually introduce a little complex carbs into the mix and eat whenever you are hungry, which will start being more often again. Introduce sugar last.
Hava and DietDoctor.com on YouTube have the best stuff out there regarding nutrition science for fasting, low carb, and high satiety eating. They were both founded by the same guy, and they take two different but related appraoches to eating healthy. DietDoctor is more geared toward being in the fasted state.
Wow. Thank you for taking the time to share this. Incredibly helpful!
Welcome! Glad it helped! I took the time to figure it out, so I was hoping it would end up helping more than just me. I'm just glad people can use the info and find it helpful at this point.
Excellent š
Also, just wanna clarify and add a few things:
Protein is the most important thing when you eat. Fat is also good for you, depending on its composition and heating (avoid soybean oil! highly heat-refined polyunsaturated fats are carcinogenic and they make you feel like shit). Carbs below around 30 grams per day is essential for being in the ketogenic state, which is the fasted state (though that number varies by person), and you wanna get the most protein-rich whole foods you can find within that guideline, whether the assortment is piscetarian, meatitarian, vegetarian, vegan, or omnivorous.
Omnivorous or carnivorous diets are easiest to maintain on keto as far as I could see, but once you find what works for you, you're golden. You can be vegetarian and eat hard boiled eggs and spinach every day if you wanted to, or go vegan, every day eat a salad of high protein vegetables and mushrooms tossed in olive oil and vinegar with a sugarfree Red Bull as a supplement for water soluble vitamins, or instead of Red Bull, nutritional yeast as your supplement. Sprinkle that shit on everything! I varied, ate some of all of this. Some days I had nothing but In-N-Out meat patties. It was cheap, easy, and had all the nutrients I needed.
Also you can keep doing keto indefinitely if you want. Just always eat when you are hungry. It's impossible to overeat on keto, and your body is right when it says you need to. Ketogenesis is like a metabolism recalibration. All of your senses will indicate real needs. If you customized your cronometer targets based on accurate data about yourself and scientific studies (the defaults are pretty good too, just adjust your macros!), then you will see that your cravings are almost always in line with what cronometer says you are missing, nutrient-wise. It's pretty cool.
In order to build muscle like I did, you must work out. You might lose muscle if you don't eat enough protein during this or if you are sedentary. It's not any easier to build muscle on keto, aside from the effect of having more free amd stable energy to be able to work out. Bring a keto-aide for workouts. You need water and electrolytes (salts). One good salt supplement is LMNT.
To really understand this stuff and get the most possible benefit out of it, do research on how the metabolism and ketones vs carbs work. Insulin to glucagon ratios are key in understanding it. Do your own research on optimal levels of protein and fat, and how much carbs will trigger a switch to low glucagon/high insulin. Do your own research on different kinds of LDL cholesterol, which the medical industrial complex still pretends are all the same. Remember there is a shitload of misinformation out there from random idiots and the medical industry alike. DietDoctor and Hava are the only sources that readily come to mind that I trust. There were only a few other sources that had a clue what they were talking about, and only in certain specific areas. You have to reason it out. Ketogenic state is great for your health in a lot of ways, and the details are fascinating.
Funny I remember growing up watching The Three Stooges all the time, and how in the short when they worked at 'the druggist' they mixed something up with some 'Eh-Chineya-See-ah'...
And then I remember some twenty or so years ago when I first used echinacea, and it suddenly occurred to me what they were playing on, and that not so long ago, most people in the world knew and trusted natural medicine.
I'm looking it thus way... Humans throughout our history ate local seasonal food. They moved a lot and they eat just right or too little and you would not see one fat person in a village. In the old days, only kings were these fat creatures sitting on their throne not doing much.
Nowdays we all can became kings quite easily.
We ate fruits in the season to build up fat before winter. Nowadays, the season never ends.
On top of that, we're manufacturing foods made from sugar and oil with very little protein, and sugar drinks replaced water.
