The A Gathering of Batteries experiment by nostr:nprofile1qqs9h846gee5vca68d3t3qq7x3l8tulqqkzzfzs9xsfcynu5jlrygpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucn0w3jhvtnnwcq3yamnwvaz7tmsw4e8qmr9wpskwtn9wvqjxamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwdhhvetjv45kwmn9denkjmn9v4exjmn89e5k769mxtj and nostr:nprofile1qqszy58kj62v9fpe98nhuh0q76np4e0r0g0wd44rhth3wphdnyqjfzcpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwashvmrpddjjucm0d5q3samnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwdhx7un59eek7cmfv9kqurnrls is interesting, not simply because it's a value-for-value experiment, but because of the underlying movement and symbolism. They're paying you roughly 10 cents to stream one of their songs whereas they'd only make 0.003 cents from you streaming it on Spotify. Is #V4V better for them? That's up to you.
Discussion
The site is cool and the idea is interesting but paying someone to listen to your music isn't #V4V.
Why isn't it? They value you as a listener and they're giving you value in exchange for that. And the best part, ou don't have to take their money, you can recycle it back into the pot and you can even donate directly to the pot. It's literally value-for-value, just with extra enhancements.
When Adam Curry and John C Dvorak started doing this with No Agenda 17 years ago it was about them producing a podcast, releasing it without any restrictions and if you would Value in it you could return Value back to the show in the form of Time, Talent or Treasure.
That idea got rolled into PC 2.0 where it's free and open for people to contribute to. Along the way the V4V streaming sats and Boost got rolled into and that's "valued" like you mentioned about. I know they Value their listeners and want to help them onboard to this cool new Bitcoin music thing we're doing but it's not the V4V model. It's paying people to listen to your music which is fine but it's not the V4V model that got introduced to all of this via PC 2.0.
5 years ago people didn't even know what V4V was. It's slowly being morphed over time to mean exchanging sats or paying for something you Value and that's not what it is.
It's setting your content free and if people find Value in it they can return Value to you.
So you charged the battery then?
I'd rather just support the band directly so they actually get my sats.
shykids@primal.net
Sure, I get that, but there's also nothing wrong with some creative marketing and fun to bring more people to the movement either. Right?
Checking the rule book..
**STEP 4: Disdain Anything Fun**
Mock anything involving zap, or people enjoying themselves. Fun is for normies. Art should be hard, serious, and ideally hosted on a IPFS server.
Damn.
I like when you drink. Your trolling makes me laugh.
Seriously though guys, good work. The site is beautiful, the music is great. The idea is interesting. I'm glad you guys are having fun, and I hope the experiment works out for you and the band.
Like I said cool idea but I don't think it's V4V. Anyways keep being awesome Derek. 🤙
If we define v4v as I give you something (my attention) and you give me something of in return (some sats), then everything is value for value.
Your boss pays you a weekly paycheck, you give him time working on his project, v4v.
Maybe you want to pay someone for their attention, that's cool, maybe it will work, but it's not what was originally meant when value for value was introduced by the No Agenda producers.
I can put on whiskers and a tail and tell you I'm a cat. That doesn't make it so.
Meow!
It's works more like you pay for your music to be suggested to people.
For finding new listeners mainly I think
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