I’m team Apple. They keep me safe and comfortable. The walled garden is beautiful 😻

I could never own another phone because that’s unheard of!

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I have a Nokia 3210.

That’s cool

I totally get why people would say and believe this. Products feel good, looks fantastic, marketing is great, have a cult around. Indeed comfy and safe feeling.

I wanted to jump on this wagon but never had enough money to do so.

Never found a cheaper but as luxury feeling from any brand-environment, I thought I will find it with Samsung but it was somehow a bit off.

I am a big fan of one-stop-shop solutions. Just we would need those that aims to smaller groups also, not just the million sized ones.

you are a corporate pawn

GOS is going to shit. Any criticism about them and they go thermonuclear and claim harassment. It's pretty embarrassing. Plus they also use blobs, so it's not fully open source as people like to claim. If using Apple products is within your threat model, then so be it 🤙

I worked at Apple 20 years ago. 25% employee discount was nice. So I had a lot of it myself. Then the walled garden got more and more obnoxious and I got tried of Big Tech a la Snowden privacy hit as well. As a developer being told what I could do on my own machine and that I had to pay more Apple tax to get other Apple users to use what I built really rankled. Sold it all off. Linux and grapheneos is where I live now.

i know you mute me so i'm just gonna say, what a surprise a person with a narcissistic personality disorder likes apple

although i know that these are acquired behaviours from conditioning, it still is unbearable to be around

So, I get that Android has its own issues which make it a bit of a toss up in many ways (at least, if you're not gonna get out there on the Graphene train, and deal with the fact that you're handling more yourself), but does it not occur to you that the way Apple keeps you safe isn't that unlike how banks keep you safe with fiat money by smoothing over the volatility in price? The amount of times I've suggested software to people only to realize they simply can't run it (or analogs) on Apple devices is wild.

They do seem good for like, a work phone though. The security features are beneficial, and if the phone has a focused use case, I do get why they fit for some people. I'm always a little more surprised when the tinkering bitcoin types are on 'em though -- at least, the tinkering bitcoin types that don't have a second (or third) phone. The big exception perhaps being those who try to unplug and do everything on the computer -- though that seems more a use case for flip phones than iPhones.

Apple is a beautiful walled garden, just like the garden from the movie Zone of Interest 🫠