A password manager fixes this in most cases.
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Another app...
It’s built into the iPhone
It's still another app. Same thing everyone is complaining about that don't want amber. Integration with separate software bad for some reason. Even though the ux is the same...
But it’s not like you need a different password manager for every kind of app.
I'm not sure I see what you're saying in comparison to amber? What's the flow like using a password manager and getting the nsec into new app you're trying?
Still copy and paste from a third-party password manager. If you use the native iOS password manager it can autofill without having to store it in your clipboard, which is the least secure step of the process.
You do not copy and paste from Amber.
I know. I’d love it if someone could find a way to bring that to iOS but it may not be possible.
It's definitely possible.
nostr:npub1w4uswmv6lu9yel005l3qgheysmr7tk9uvwluddznju3nuxalevvs2d0jr5 any interest?
Doesn't iOS have aegis already? I never tested it so I don't know how it works
Yes, it works as a bunker.
Works with like 4 apps from when I tested it out. Not sure if it works with web stuff yet.
And there’s nowser
Links?
https://testflight.apple.com/join/DUzVMDMK Aegis for Nostr
Quick with the whip 🤙
Any apps use this yet?
Safer than copying and pasting from a text file.
Well Yea... That's why I do it once. To amber...
But since I can’t use Amber on anything except Android, it doesn’t help me much.
Yea iOS should have an equivalent. Nostore is a good signer but still has internet permission of I'm not mistaken. I'm not comparing amber to a password manager. Amber is a signer. It's role is more than password management. It's nostr key management. Inherently more specific in its use case.
Nostore (deprecated) was replaced by Nostash (a fork by nostr:npub1yaul8k059377u9lsu67de7y637w4jtgeuwcmh5n7788l6xnlnrgs3tvjmf) that works fine for browser clients using Safari, but there isn’t anything that can sign inside apps.
A password manager isn't another app for me because I also use it for 500+ other passwords
Amber would be another app
I'm not oppoed to Amber, I just don't have any need for it myself. If I wanted to try a bunch of nostr apps, and for some reason I was opposed to using a separate nsec for testing, I'd probably be delighted to have Amber.
Just because you use it for more things does not make it a separate piece of software.
Oh I absolutely want it to be separate, for the same reason that people want their signer to be separate.
But since I already have a password manager it means it is not an extra app. Using a signer app would mean doubling the number of nostr apps on my phone.
Again, if I use a dozen different nostr clients and wanted them to all use the same account, I'd be all over having a signer. Different software for different use cases.
Your password manager is still handing over your private key to a client and you're trusting your client to handle it properly. That's the problem. The password manager is not a secure solution. The password manager itself will keep your key secure but the client you hand it to may not.
Like I said, I would use a different account for a sketchy client. You asked how other people handled this problem, and I'm telling you. No need to get snippy just because you don't like my answer.
I'm not trying to be snippy.
I thought nostr:npub1zmc6qyqdfnllhnzzxr5wpepfpnzcf8q6m3jdveflmgruqvd3qa9sjv7f60 made an excellent point. I don’t like having to copy and paste my nsec into anything, especially because it stays in the clipboard and can be pasted accidentally. That’s been a problem since the start.
I don’t copy and paste, I autocomplete, never lands in the clipboard.