how can you not replace?

if you were going to buy the item, it sounds like you had the funds to make that purchase.

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I'm out of fiat for years

then it sounds like you couldn't make the purchase then.

No I have enough Bitcoin to pay for everything and I always do via various ways but I can't replace so a discount sounds good to me if it's beneficial for both parties

it doesn't sound like you need to spend and replace then, is that right? you just want to spend. you said you have no fiat and you have enough bitcoin. so, why are you arguing with me again?

I'm not arguing really πŸ«‚ but you said you don't need a discount to spend Bitcoin. I don't NEED it either because I HAVE to spend Bitcoin but a lot of people don't so they either go the easy route or the cheaper one. I think your point is counter-productive, that's all. Nothing but love BTW.

A lot of people live on credit. Yes, maybe they shouldn't spend that money if they don't have it, but that's not the reality we live in.

sure, i do that every single month. it's easy and i earn free money for doing it. but if i did'nt have the means to pay it off every month, i wouldn't do that, meaning i wouldn't be able to make that purchase in the first place.

Yes, but like I said, that's not how most people are spending their money.

A quick search gave me this number:

"U.S. credit card defaults reached a record high of $46 billion from January through September 2024, the highest level in 14 years."

bitcoin can't fix people currently living beyond their means. it can help in the long run. but this reaffirms my point then that it sounds like the person shouldn't be making this purchase in the first place.

Agreed 100%. But I think the OP was about driving adoption. People would need a reason to use their btc.

It’s nuts. We are doing some long overdue renovations (which we saved up for). Totally floored that that contractor would accept credit card payments. We got enough points to fly our son home for Christmas.

You can finance a hot dog at Costco.

What a world we live in…

You can pay in a mixture of bitcoin and credit cards and cash in the U.S., especially with access to robosats and to exchanges like River or Strike that offer bill pay and direct deposit into a mix of bitcoin and dollars and such. I pay for most things in dollars but it is possible to do a little replace and spend mixed with it if you have a mindset to play around and stay disciplined. In the meantime, gotta find more income too. It's really hard out here. I hear you. I'm struggling too.

You pay for that "free" money with higher prices though, just sayin' ... it's more like the credit market reshapes spending and time value according to the offering you picked.

β€˜Replace’ means exchange rates and exchange fees. Plus KYC surveillance. Every time I use an exchange, I risk getting my bank account shut down for no good reason.

Robosats? Bisq?

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