https://m.primal.net/PUiI.mp4

The one and only econoalchemist of the 256 Foundation discusses the only way to close the loop of KYC bitcoin.

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i have heard the argument before

but i dont buy into this

first of all i deleted most of my kyc accounts

and second i did a lot of coinjoin

so i think i can fairly say that i lost my coins

because the government doesnt know

which my addresses are....

third if i would cash out like this (in the video)

the banks would ask me where all the money is coming from

and even if i provide the information

if i would buy all back no kyc, withdraw cash

and buy at an ATM

everyone looking at my bankaccount

could guess that i bought back in with cash

maybe they cant proof it

but they also cant proof my addresses after heavy coinjoin

Yea totally agreed

It solved the problem but raised several other problems😅

maybe you can do it like this if you are new and just learned that kyc is bad. i would say you could do it like that.

but if i would send my sats back to an exchange now after some years the fucking exchange can just rug pull me or the bank could freeze my account. its to risky for me.

Too risky to send back and sell and buy back non-kyc ones.

I’ll try to learn how to coinjoin those coins withdrawn from exchanges .

So many things in my to do list😅

Use lightning withdrawals and then swap using boltz. Problem solved.

yes and maybe use some ecash mints in between

no way they ever know your addresses

but if you withdrew onchain earlier you can use coinjoin

or swap to lightning and swap back onchain later

True. Selling your corns is the worst idea. Sometimes doing nothing is the best strategy.

Can’t undo the damage. Selling is probably the worst thing you could do unless you have a very smol stack and can easily start over on p2p exchange.

its the only way.

2nd best is just isolate those coins and start building an entirely separate no KYC stack.

but the importance of NEVER connecting the two cant be overstated.

2nd option is probably best for most ppl. There must be some extraordinary circumstances to want to sell your entire stack and start over. IMO

really just depends on your level of confidence in state protections/overreach

selling and starting over is better than having it get 6102'd for example

Exactly I would classify that as extraordinary circumstances.

some would say its a predictable outcome from attempting to disintermediate entrenched power structures

Also shouldn’t make knee jerk decisions based on possible outcomes. A P2P stack is a good insurance policy for this. Don’t need to sell your entire stack tho. The likelihood of being able to get back to where you were previously is slim to none.

i dont sell

and maybe i dont comply

worst thing they can do

is put you in jail

and that they could do all the time

Totally agree keeping them separate is the golden rule. Once you mix those stacks, it’s like handing over your keys to the KYC police. Anyone got tips for juggling the two without slipping up.

Create a new seed, then you have nothing to worry about in terms of keeping them separate

+1

I'd go even further.

separate devices with separate wallets.

i have several Graphene phones for different usecases/threat models.

Don't buy from exchanges.