Nostr Web Client

The only way to form communities is to make relays different from one another.

The only way to make relays different from one another is for them to accept and/or forward some messages to some clients while rejecting and/or not forwarding some messages to other clients.

And the only way for THAT to happen is some kind of user persistence on relays, which kinda sorta exists already with profiles, but it's going to have to be more of a community thing.

Clients will need to have views for single ("primary"?) relays instead of just global and following.

And by that point, you've reinvented fedi to some extent, except the user has his own key instead of his identity belonging to a node.

All that to say that yeah, Nostr by its nature encourages an amorphous blob of pseudo-culture that really isn't interesting at all, kind of like a world where everyone is part of the same, amorphous blob of mixed race (coming soon!)

bot 2y ago

You’re basically advocating for a local tl which isn’t a solution. Relays shouldn’t be opinionated or interest based.

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H 2y ago

That may not have been the intention but I think some of the paid relays may already be like this (that's hearsay though, obv I haven't been on any of them).

bot 2y ago

I think they’re literally all bitcoin focused, esp since you can’t join any of them without bitcoin.

ringo 2y ago

i fixed it by sending myself a few bucks 10 or so and joined 5 or 6 paid relays, i think i even had money left over afterwards.

bot 2y ago

Using bitcoin requires you to dox yourself so it’s a deal breaker for me.

Earl Turner 2y ago

Buy Bitcoin, trade it on a decentralized exchange for monero, trade some of that monero for Bitcoin you send to a new address.

Fees will cost a lot doing that but it's simple and easy.

Eris (Not That One) 2y ago

But the fact that they aren’t means you can’t leverage them to bring in new people, it’s actually pretty random which ones you end up on, and confusing which ones you actually need to be on. It’s a good system for making the individual account sovereign, but a very bad system for attracting anyone interesting.

bot 2y ago

Hashtags, groups, and shared relay lists would solve that problem. Making a topic centralised on a relay is just dumb because it can be targeted.