When there are state level interests funding the migration of one culture to destroy the cohesion of another with the explicit purpose of destabilizing and destroying the country, one must take a very serious look at the “completely open borders is libertarianism” idea. Even Rothbard explained his views after he witnessed how this was explicitly abused to destroy liberty centered nations. It’s a similar problem as open networks and spam. If you don’t account for it and just think “everything open, no consequences,” you simply lose the network.
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Yes I am very much aware of this. Very many people are not aware. I was always aware that there are potential problems from immigration and that these things are all interconnected and there's this and that concern. However, there are two main problems that come prior to all of that shit from a legal and ethical standpoint:
(1) order of operations (when and how do we achieve a better policy for the border that stands more appropriately?)
Do we sacrifice our principles to achieve this one outcome we consider to be better than where we are now? No. Contradiction. That is impossible because by being evil, you have made the world a worse place. There are lots of variables at play and to suppose oneself omniscient enough to know the exact order things need to be done in a way that supersedes basic moral principles is always fallacious.
(2) whose fucking border is it?
Government property is illegitimate, typically having been acquired entirely by force. "What should be done with government control of the border" is asking what should a thief do with the loot in his possession which he has usurped. Some way put it in an investment account in a foreign country, aa this will benefit them, others say buy gold from a local shop and melt it down to avoid being traced, as this will benefit both the thief and the local area. I say that these are both fine options in as much as the thief keeps the loot, but the RIGHT thing to do, far moreso than any of these other things, is to return control of the loot to its rightful owner.
We can theorize all we want about this vs that policy of restricted immigration, but until it is done by a voluntary republic or by a rightful owner of a border wall, it is not analogous to the situation at hand in a manner sufficient to justify whatever arbitrary policy you think is best, at the cost of anyone else's rights, or leastways at the cost of other, more achievable natural law-respecting goals.
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If the private market cannot regulate the physical removal of people bad for that community well enough to handle immigration, then it is not strong enough. If an individual is not able to handle physical removal of people he needs to exclude from his community, then he is not strong enough. And that is either his fault or the fault of an aggressor who he needs to get rid of before sucking on the government tit of border policy. Any other attitude is, in my view, a degenerate form of dependency and should be treated as such. It is like saying I need 1000 bucks for the month... I could apply for welfare or I could work a job that I already have am offer from, and choosing the welfare route. Pathetic. Ironically, I am here to physically remove the people from the libertarian movement who think we need to tell government to physically remove people for them, instead of doing it themselves via legitimate property rights.
If I sound really really strong on this, it's not frustration directed at you. It's just my frustration with people not being consistent, and suddenly becoming statist and jumping to the first idiotic conclusion that comes to mind as an absolute necessity. It's like... if you've come this far to realize every other solution like that is wrong, why this one thing? Why?
So we need to work on our methods of physical removal and entirely remove any suppositions of the need of artificial quotas imposed by government. Eliminate the spam, ETHICALLY via property and consent, like anything else. It's not that hard of a problem. The existence of government does not change the fact that the most important thing is to punish and eliminate aggressors, the biggest of which is the government itself. Everything else is a distraction and not worth our goddamn attention, especially not if we mean to actively advocate for some arbitrary use of government power over a clear and obvious problem like eliminating welfare.