`qvm-device mic list` shows the mic

Using --persistent functioned the same as without that flag (rc=0, no mic audio in qube). How do I undo that? Detach tells me persistent devices can't be detached while the qube is running and with the qube shut down it tells me "pulseaudio agent not running".

I see the mic in dom0 and I see levels there. I see the mic in the qube's GUI, but it's not selected by default, I can select the device, turn the volume slider up, but it looks like it's muted and that button is disabled. Pics attached below.

I also found that I don't have /etc/qubes/policy.d/50-sys-audio.policy in dom0, but I'm not sure if that was only present in an old version of Qubes. I saw a reference to it here: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/unable-to-passthrough-audio-device-to-sys-audio/9684

Here's dom0, working like a champ:

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The default view when I open the system settings in the qube:

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And the best I can do with making the qube's setting be what I want:

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