Don’t “remember” your seed phrase. Find a better way of recording it and keeping it secure.

Good to have 1 main HODL in cold storage, and smaller amounts in software or mobile wallets for spending/accumulating.

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Also if you “know” your words you might be subject to a physical attack if it is known you have it memorized. Physical attacks may get more common. #[4] tracks them

Ok so if you know your seed phrase, let no one know you know your seed phrase 😅

Thanks mate 🙏💜

Followed btw 🫡

Thanks mate 🙏 really appreciate your detailed answer 💜

Would you consider a steel plate as a better way? Stored in a safe location?

What cold/ hotwallets would you recommend?

Trezor with Bitcoin only software is good. Also some steel plate or tube is better than paper

Thanks 🙏

I am not sure about a lot of steel plates. Some are to engrave the seeds and i feel that oxidation especially related to a fire or water could make them unreadable.

Tubes are only to put a paper in, right? So its still the paper risk.

Then there are some steel wallet where you can put the metal letters one by one or tubes that store metal rings … with ghose i would be afraid that the order of letters / words might be destructed some day …

No, it’s fully steel. Here’s a good one IMO: https://cryptosteel.com/product/cryptosteel-capsule-solo/

But isn’t it possible to loose order of information with this? 🤔

No because there is a ‘safety pin’ thing at the end. Scroll through the pictures and you’ll see. IMO it’s the most solid kind of physical security

It’s not really possible to change the letters, because there is a safety pin/clip. Even if you want to do a backup, you don’t take the pin off.

Ah here is the answer 🙏😅

But what about force? Say an explosion 💥

Hmm do you have a better alternative than a stainless steel tube inside a thing inside another thing inside something else?

Not yet 😅 i am just curious and digging into this 🙏

Stainless steel tube inside vacuum tube encased in concrete in a safe?

Inside a closet?

I have used a ledger nano. It’s super simple and works.

My seed phrase is hammered into steel and in a secure place.

Otherwise I have some bitcoin and lightning in software wallets.

That sounds doable for now. I will get into multisig when my btc amount grows, but for now i think i might settle with something like that.

Do you think it is enough to have only one steel plate? Or better to have two copies of the seed phrase in different lications? 🤔

Always better to have back ups, but the amount of backups is limited to the number that you can keep “secured”. Keep in mind that if someone finds you were seed phrase, you have lost your bitcoin.

Yeah have to consider that…

What about just storing 23 words at 2 sage locations and the last word somewhere else?

Everyone has different things that work for them, just keep in mind there is no customer service in case you screw up somewhere along the way

I see… there seems to be no best way 🙏💜

Definitely not a one size fits all solution

I don't really do phrases only keys but yeah, good luck remembering all your keys throughout the years. I've got two fire resistant cold storage metal cards and outside of that I just use 3 pen-drives duplicating each other, encrypted, stored in different locations. It's the only form of key storing I'll ever need tbh.

I saw your YouTube video in saving keys 🙏💜

Why you don’t use seed phrases? Isn’t it more simple?

A phrase will recover the address from one particular wallet but over the years there has been many of those and back in the days we didn't really have phrases, just keys. So you could say I grew up with keys.

Also, if you store individual keys instead of phrases you can import any key to any wallet of that respective chain at any time. Or use the same key across multiple devices, up to you. Phrases, I don't know, they aren't for me.

Cryptosteel FTW.

Thats the ones i would be afraid of loosing the order of letters/ words 😅