Replying to Avatar Derek Ross

The introduction of badges changed Reddit for me. The psychological need to continue using Reddit to continue my daily streak is strong.

I noticed this after the first few badges. 5 days 10, 20, 30, etc. I wanted to keep going because I was getting notifications that I was completing something special.

After earning a couple badges, I found myself forcing myself to use Reddit every day just to keep my streak alive. Then, badges started to become more rare in quality as the streak day count increased. I wanted to collect them all! I wanted to see if I could earn the legendary ones. 365 days? 500 days? Hell yeah!

I don't particularly care about Reddit all that much. Most days I'd be fine just reading. I don't need to upvote or downvote. Or at least I thought I didn't? Badges changed that for me.

I see this with my children, especially my daughter. Her and her friends all use Snapchat to communicate. She cares about keeping her streaks alive with friends. It's a silly little indicator in Snapchat, just like Reddit, that keeps pulling people back in.

I know that we all recognize the issues with legacy social media. I know these tactics are meant to keep bringing us back, so that the algorithms can keep us enraged and engaged, to steal our attention. We can do better!

It's no secret that user retention is horrible across the Nostr ecosystem. Could a Nostr client implement something similar to these streak badges without the negative aspects to keep people coming back? Definitely.

Nostr doesn't have evil algorithms. (Someone could build one though. It's an open protocol!) I believe a developer could implement a similar feature to draw people back into their application. We have a badges spec. The badge could be automatically assigned and displayed on the user profile as their engagement increases.

I guess technically this doesn't even need to be implemented by a specific client. Someone could essentially write a DVM for this, right? This would be a large task though. The DVM could use the nostr.band API or search.nostr.wine API or something similar to do this and assign these streak badges automatically across "all of Nostr" or even just a specific set of relays. Relay operators could implement something such as this too. It's all possible.

Thoughts?

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No. Nostr doesn't have horrible retention for lack of dopamine, it has horrible retention for lack of engaging notes.

Notes are largely self-congradulatory and lack anything like real insight. Luckily we don't need insights, or diet advice, we need genuine curiosity and humility about the universe outside of Bitcoin.

This goes for me as well. I am not a humble person and it reflects in how much engagement I get.

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Everyone's experience is different. I get that. My feed keeps drawing me back in. I use Nostr every day and when I have a busy day and I'm away, I feel like I'm missing so much. We have a lot of content and I look forward to catching up on it.

I understand. However, we aren't seeing wildly different content, you find it engaging and the people who don't stick around don't. I am positing that, just maybe, the good mornings, Bitcoin evangelism, and health advice aren't nearly a deep as generally held.

There are great conversations here, no one here is stupid, but they occur deep in reply threads on topics outside the mainstream nostr fare. I remain for the potential of the technology and for those rare moments that people let their deeply held beliefs on the nature of being shine.

People are wonderfully complicated and nearly everyone has fascinating history and insights, thing they have pondered or experienced in depth. What are yours?

This badge conversation is actually a good example. I don't usually engage with your notes, but this one strikes a chord, because you have noted something deep and fundemental about online engagement. I happen to disagree that chasing dopamine is a net good. (It works too well on me so I hate it) But I am glad that people are willing to try things that I don't like. I might be wrong and if left to me many wonderful things might go untried.

So keep up posting wild curious ideas that you have thought seriously about and more people will stick around, even if just to disagree.