Nostr Web Client

For the record, I believe #Alexandria is well-suited to shake up this paradigm and create a relay-centric user experience, because that's what makes the most sense for the project.

Silberengel 1y ago

Yes, because our mission says that we want to:

"Allow everyone to obtain and disseminate knowledge, without fear of censorship."

Which is an essentially different mission than a kind 01 client has. Kind 01 is mostly just social chatter and polemic, like on Twitter or Tik-Tok.

Making the heroic effort to create an uncensorable architecture and then using it to post food pics, AI artwork, Bitcoin price predictions, porn, and admonitions to "stack sats and reject seed oils" will inevitably lead to everyone wondering why you bother with all of that uncensorability. Why the additional effort, to protect things nobody earnestly wants to censor?

(That censorable things are also centralized, and that centralized storage is expensive, will be something people only realize later, to much chagrin.)

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MichaelJ 1y ago

The fact that large, centralized storage becomes expensive quickly will, I think, be a limiting factor in the growth of the relay network. An obvious solution is for relays to shed events based on some heuristic to prevent storage from growing out of control. This keeps relays affordable, but makes user data ephemeral.

To store events long-term, the user has to either ensure they are distributed across many relays so they are always out there somewhere, or pay for the storage space themselves.

I think paid storage is more likely. Some relays already do that; Wine is an example.

Another solution would be tiered storage. Perhaps some solutions will implement user-controlled cloud storage as a second tier. The user can designate outbox relays and event kinds to be stored long-term, and the second-tier permanent storage vacuums up the user's events from their outbox relays and stashes them. That storage solution can provide a DVM that re-introduces events to the relay network if they have been deleted.