Homosexuality is neither a mental illness nor degeneracy.

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...our Creator says otherwise: [Romans 1](https://ESC.org/Roman+1).

You mean the bible said that. I wouldn't take anything written and rewritten by humans too seriously.

If it were authored only by humans, then I would agree with you 100%. 🤙

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

- Stephen Roberts

This argument begs the question--meaning that it assumes what it has yet to prove.

So you subscribe equally to all religions? Otherwise I think I’m missing your meaning and wouldn’t mind a clarification.

The argument assumes there is no one true God, therefore belief in one God (or gods) over another is an arbitrary subjective choice ("this is MY truth"). But since there is a God, and since he has clearly revealed himself, to believe in this one God (and reject all others) is to accept what is.

I do not subscribe to all religions equally because they are not all just instances of the same class--they are not "the same universal truths speaking in different accents." They make conflicting truth claims--and only one accords with metaphysical reality (which exists whether I believe it or not).

The argument assumes that the God-who-is has *not* clearly revealed himself to us, in a way that we can understand, such that we can reject competing claims of deity. That is begging the question.

As Francis Schaeffer put it, "He is there, and He is not silent." Consider reading Romans 1 -- if not to be persuaded, then to at least understand what Christianity teaches.

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Thank you for the clarification. I think we still disagree at a fundamental level but I have no issue with politely disagreeing on how the universe works. I don’t think we will convince one another, so we’ll just leave it at “different strokes for different folks”.

heterosexuality can be degenerate when selfish and unkind

heterosexuality doesn't exist. It is an artificial term created to blur basic normality in order to put healthy people on the same level as people with mental illness.

If this is repeated using government funds, people will believe it.

It is actually literally degenerate.

"Given to vice" is one of the definitions of thzt word and I would argue that sex exclusively for pleasure (without the option otherwise) can be classified as a vice as it is a corrupt state of the act of sex. Sex, fundamentally, is for reproduction whether pleasure is involved or not. You can argue that pleasure is a part of the whole act, and I would agree, but when taken to the extreme where there is no option for anything but pleasure, my above argument stands.

God is my guide/stay in Love/love the sunset!

It's amazing the hoops people will go through to justify their sin. There is freedom in acknowledging you have a problem

This is my most unpopular note ever... And I thought leftists were the ones boasting about their moral superiority and imposing it on everyone else 😅.

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Yes it is

What is it then.

I do not disagree with the statement, how would you classify it?

I classify it as homosexuality. It's descriptive enough

I thought you were going to illuminate me with some new wisdom. 👏

I'm not claiming anything more than what is on thr original post.