"Loyally served Donald Trump"?! 😆

I think his campaign, Chris Christie's, and possibly some of the others are Deep State attempts to sabotage another Trump victory.

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Why do we think that the job of the vice president is to serve the president?

I don't, I'm just laughing at how Reuters put it.

My comment wasn't directed at you, I didn't think you thought that, but basically all Americans think that the president is the vice president's boss. We need to go back to the vice president being the person who gets the second most votes or the second most electoral votes. Can't remember exactly what the constitution says.

Do you mean like undo the 12 Amendment? What you describe is what the Constitution originally said.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

Yeah, but they changed that with the 12th Amendment so you wouldn't have cases where the President is from one party and the VP from another, as happened in 1796 with Pres. Adams and VP Jefferson.

"Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Yes I think that all of the the amendments that take power away from the people should be repealed and the amendments that were never legally ratified should be ignored.

The whole point of the constitution was to block the government from being able to oppress the people. Then the politicians were able to convince enough people that if they went along with their agenda they could get free shit and or have the government do their bidding. Hence the amendments that came after the original ten.

Nah. This is the weakness of the current party system. The deep state probably wants Desantis, but they can't help the fact Desantis sounds like a whiny hall monitor. But generally he has good track record as governor.

Pence doesn't have good track record. January 6th, he bowed to the wrong god. And all the rest are pointless too. They are just adding bodies to the clown car. This works in Trump's favor. He slammed the field the first time. Maybe the deep state is dumb enough to think this is a good idea, but it is not what I'd go for if I were deep state. I'd tell them to stand down or else, and then find someone who could plausibly pose as more Trump than Trump.

Maybe they think they'll get him out with prosecutions or straight up killing him, but I it's hard for me to believe they think any of these losers will beat Trump. Of course, I suppose they can always just cheat again...