👀 #NFDB has been launched on nostr.land

This brings:

🚀 Better performance

🔢 Higher scalability

✨ More features

Anyone that renotes this note will get:

✨ 3 months free on a 1 year purchase

✨ 1 year free on a 2 year purchase

https://nostr.land

You can check if you are connected to the NFDB version by checking for "✨ NFDB".

This is being rolled out gradually so it may take a few hours (restart your client):

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Zaps broken

you sure?

Nvm just dont accept anon zaps .

Shame

Worked for me.

I don’t even want the free stuff. Just wanted the message broadcasted.

I'm still connected to the eden subdomain, should I use the regular nostr.land instead?

Yes

$45 per user per year? How did you arrive at that pricing structure? I thought the server tech would be performant enough now to be sustainable closer to $24 per year (double what whatsapp used to cost)

Administration and development costs, and economies of scale (or rather the inverse)

Also something big is coming that I am not going to spoil yet, that will make you think the current price is a steal :)

You forgot that there exists other tiers like the yearly ones as well.

Also the discounted price is $75/3 years. For now :)

Looking forward to it. I’m all for sustainable, honest business models.

What usage are you assuming on that account? Could it make sense to have different tiers in terms of how much people use it? After all they’re not paying for “an account” but rather just for traffic, right?

Or is it that the people posting to the server are also subsidizing everyone reading from the server for free?

The cost of payment includes the data being served.

Fair use applies. So if you spam the relay with garbage, or use significantly more (and by that I mean very significantly) resources than everyone else, you might be asked to leave

Otherwise the cost per user is actually not variable too much.

Serving content to lurkers is by far the bulk of the bandwidth, right? So the people paying to post are subsidizing the lurkers.

This becomes especially problematic if you have a celebrity like nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m paying to post on your relay, right? You could charge Jack more to post, but then he has to recoup his own costs on that.

So should the “tiers” be based more on popularity of the user rather than how much they post?

The only other option is to charge lurkers for lurking to pay for the much greater content serving bandwidth

From my testing the costs are not significantly different between say an influencer and an average user.

Not that it makes a dent when you have hundreds of users.

So each user gets billed how much their content costs to serve on average

suffering from success type problems

It would be interesting if that sort of thing was made more transparent. Make relays dumber so the influencer incurs the cost, not the relay

Thats cool, howd you get the renote to apply like that?

The API is provided your npub when checking for available tiers to check for promotions (new user discount, renote discount, or max. time allowed)

It contacts the Nosdex indexer to check if there are any renotes by that person and if so enables the promo tiers

Only takes 3 seconds to appear (page reload required ofc)

Dope. It did work