They’re not native Americans anymore because they were defeated?

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Their claims to the land were defeated. They are still the old tribal people of these lands. The old, defeated tribal people.

Isn't that self evident?

Not sure I get your point

Same.

If your forefathers conquered the land, then it’s their land now. But they’re not native of the land.

It became their native land, and it is now my native land.

Native = rightful.

The claim that we all have rightful ownership over lands we genetically possessed is baloney.

Property rights must be defended.

Read history.

I’m not denying that it’s your land now but that’s not what Native American means

I did actually 😂

Anyways enjoy your day

People use "native" like it means "original". And we keep finding evidence of earlier and earlier settlement of this land.. it is a moot point.. we are as native as they are, unless we pick some arbitrary and subjective time frame to call "original". That's not what native means. I think that's the point.