On fountain.fm (in web browser) I can listen to a creator's podcast for hours without login, but if I try to pay him with a zap fountain requires me to create an account and log in.

Why?

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so they can track who is zapping who ๐Ÿ˜‚ similar with nostr build now, you have to login to upload an image and get a link .

Having some control over uploads of kiddie porn is more necessary than controlling who zaps a creator, surely?

Especially when it can be bypassed by zapping the guy within nostr.

lol thatโ€™s what was happening over there? glad I didnโ€™t know

If you are trying to zap, you DO have to be "logged in" to do so on any Nostr client, including Fountain. A zap requires a signature from your private key.

of course you need to be logged into your nostr client to zap anyone!

But I was asking why you need to log into fountain itself.

It looks like this is one of those mindless decisions to just track everyone for no real reason.

Fountain is a Nostr client. You can't zap anyone on any Nostr client unless you are logged into that Nostr client. Hence, you can't zap anyone through Fountain unless you are logged into Fountain.

Are you suggesting fountain.fm will be providing me with a key pair to allow me to zap?

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No, you log into Fountain with your existing Nostr key pair.

in that case, they don't get my private key.

so how do they zap for me?

I understand they need to split my zaps but still don't see why I need to login for that

You don't have to give them your private key. You can log in using a browser extension, like Alby or Nos2x.

You need to log in to zap because all notes on Nostr require a signature from the author's private key. A zap is just another kind of note. Two kinds, in fact; kind 9734 that the sender has to sign requesting an invoice from the recipient's Lightning wallet, and kind 9735 that the recipient's Lightning wallet signs to confirming the payment has been received.

Now, you can send sats to a podcast author any time without having to be logged in. You just need to know their Lightning address and you would do it directly within your Lightning wallet. That would not be a zap, though. For it to be a zap, your private key must sign a kind 9734 and their wallet must sign a 9735 receipt, just like any other Nostr client.

To get back to the original question where exactly, in that process, is a fountain account needed?

Now that I try to go to the website and actually boost something, I see what you mean.

Though I am "logged in" using my Nostr signing extension, I still can't boost anything. It tells me I am not logged in, even though I clearly am.

What's the deal nostr:npub1unmftuzmkpdjxyj4en8r63cm34uuvjn9hnxqz3nz6fls7l5jzzfqtvd0j2?

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