I don't understand this vague labor threat.. either keep the slaves or the economy tanks?
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No, my point is that they know the economy will tank without slave labor.... so ICE will never actually deport many people. It's just for show.
Yes, because ICE and human-Troglodyte hybrid Tom Homan are carefully weighing the macroeconomic impact of their actions....
They don't have the physical means/time in four years to deport 10-20 million people which would impact the economy. The ICE agents aren't here to balance the economy like the Federal Reserve.
Via most conceptions of free market economics, "mutually agreed upon price for labor" != "slave labor".... Are you a Marxist?
Vitor used the term, I am responding to his language use. Learn to read before commenting.
But it is not "mutually agreed" upon. The country created a caste system, and the class that doesn't have documents must follow unwritten rules if they want to survive. And the economy uses that to profit. If you give everyone a document so that they don't need to hide anymore, the price changes. That's literally market manipulation. It's not free capitalism.
Open borders harms the working class here.
Freedom always leads to some economic displacement. Cars replace horses, the loom replaces seamstresses, etc. Heck even programmers are worried about being replaced now by "vibe coding."
Society can't progress if we insist that a given model of economic production remains "fixed in amber" at a particular moment in time.
Closed borders creates disbalance, while open borders ensure humans are more balanced. Open borders inforces everyone to more empathy, since only a win-win deal will profit the individuum. Migration is only the result of unjust rules. When more people stand strong for humain rights everywhere, there is less pressure for everyone to move.
Probably noone is happy having to migrate.
The west is waking up to open borders. You’re probably going to have to relocate to find your group of people that share this opinion.
> the class that doesn't have documents
... didn't have to join the system.
They were invited to join the system. There is a massive marketing campaign around this. Nobody comes here without an invitation for a job. The journey to convince people to migrate is a lot longer than what people think
If something is a basic component of a functioning country, it should be in everyone’s interest to simplify the process to make it efficient and legal. But that’s not how things are, because what the industry (read: the lobbyists) wants is a permanent caste system of disposable humans who do the most dangerous work at the lowest possible wage, without any access to the benefits the rest of the working class has.
Write your congressman. You can’t *wish* laws into existence. We have a plan in place to do that.
They are there, and actuall being enforced as we speak.
The problem is the last 4 years, and the protesters, not the administration trying to fix it.
Ah thanks any place I can observe that marketing campaign"?
Church and accounting firms
Your church is marketing this? Or some hypothetical, non-existent church to hear about on TV?
Literally what Trump is trying to fix. I assume you will be ok with him fixing this.
If he is trying, it's not working. What is working is the Mexican crossing problem, which is a cartel issue. That is virtually solved. But the average undocumented immigrant is still being sold to come. I don't see Trump doing anything about it.
The “average (illegal alien)” walked across the border for the last 3+ years. I agree they were encouraged.
Last week there were 3 illegals.
It’s kinda tough to say he’s not doing enough and going too far, but I guess you do you.
Could also be a vote to get better legal options. So the needed services can be done in a legal manner.
That was the hope for 20 years. Both parties fucked it up. They gave everybody hope that there was a future (which was created in the inflow of people) but didn't deliver. They just got the profits from it.
The government failed to get it done for my entire lifetime, all while promoting the destabilization of foreign countries and their economies, which is what led to the soaring immigration and asylum numbers.
The global monetary system is broken, but the people on the news don't want to talk about that.
The U.S. has the cleanest shirt in the pile of dirty monetary laundry. That's what causes mass migration. People with dirty-ass shirts are looking for cleaner shirts.
You can say these people broke the law, but there is no alternative when following the law means starving to death.
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