I see, so you’re talking about something that the OP wasn’t about in the first place. 👍

The discussion is about the reason that holidays exist in the first place…the original cause.

You are not talking about that topic. You chose to try to shift the conversation to something else.

It’s like you’re constantly talking past me, not to me, and I keep falling for it.

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You are assuming a materialistic explanation for the origin. I am not. The spiritual side is not only relevant but the more important side as I am concerned. You do not have to agree.

You are assuming a spiritual explanation for the origin. I am not…and I AM practical.

The spiritual side may or may not be relevant to the origin. The materialistic explanation is definitely relevant.

The best one can say for the spiritual aspect is that there may be a spiritual association with the holidays, but suggesting that the spiritual aspect is associated with the origin is nonsensical and myopic. You don’t have to agree.

Well maybe if you had some relevant experience you would feel differently. Telling a person who can see color the world is black and white isn’t very effective.

Little boy, you lack rigor of thought. You have a raging hard on for Steiner and Gilbert. You don't realize you're ossifying into dogmatism. You are familiar with like 3 or 4 traditions. I'm familiar with well over a dozen. You are prejudicial about studying lots of different things, yet you want to act like you have technicolor vision...you're a joke. You are the one with limited vision. Have fun staying ignorant. Stop shadowing my posts. You don't practice the golden rule and you're annoying.

I could rip apart your “familiar with well over a dozen” but I don’t. I could tell you what you have wrong with many many things and I don’t. Have I even once personally attacked you? You attack me nearly every time we interact. You also don’t seem to get that reading a dozen books about blacksmithing without ever picking up a hammer does not make you a master smith. There are bug eating illiterates in Africa that make both of us look like we know nothing about spiritual topics. I don’t know how I can avoid being a yes man and interact with peacefully.

You could have blocked me a long time ago if I was truly a problem.

Blocking you wouldn't stop you from shadowing my posts.

It would only stop me from seeing your posts.

I haven't blocked you because you keep undermining me with your retarded bullshit.

I've experienced the fiery baptism of the holy spirit.

I've experienced the smokeless fire of the djinn.

I've experienced the ultimate goal for a human being.

My path to this started with living the righteous life until I scored the ultimate goal, only thing is I was driving a pickup 70mph down a highway when it happened so what normies like you think is the enlightenment experience wasn't a practical, functional possibility. I would have died and that's not useful to anyone.

You can deny my past all you like but that doesn't invalidate it. It just makes you a liar.

Ultimate goal for a human being still leaves you hostile to others? Guess that’s not for me. I’m more interested in loving my fellow human beings.

I've lived a life full of that and it hasn't been reciprocated by assholes like you.

You don't know how to love.

You don't comprehend the Golden Rule or understand how to apply it.

I was like you when that ultimate goal happened. I dismissed it as having potentially been an enlightenment experience because it didn't match Buddha's or Eckhart Tolle's or Sadhguru's or Rupert Spira's or Adyashanti's narratives. Turns out, humans have pigeon holed that type of experience as being "the enlightenment experience" rather than "AN enlightenment experience".

The various traditions I've studied, including the Rosicrucian tradition to which you are so attached, are ALL distorted, so it should not be a surprise that "the enlightenment experience" as commonly "understood" is in fact only a partial understanding.

I'm hostile to assholes who choose to use me to get ego cookies for themselves because your ego cookie you seek comes at the cost of my pursuit of ending religious violence in the world. Your pedantic, myopic tendency to argue with me and speak past me is only an obstacle to one of the most noble goals a person can have. I would think that such a goal would at least earn me freedom from being targeted by people like you as a source of ego cookies.

You don't understand the traditions I've studied, nor are you aware of the connections I've found between them and modern science. You are very ignorant and in many ways willfully so which directly opposes the eye of the needle parable and the empty cup Zen koan. You're full of your own speculations and opinions. You won't reach the ultimate goal because you can't...not as long as this is your mindset.

Fuck off and let me cook. I'm trying to end religious violence globally and all you're doing is using me for ego cookies. You are petty, self-serving, presumptuous, egotistical, and what's worse is that you project all of your shit onto me.

You've repeatedly demonstrated that you think you have me in a box when you do not. You've repeatedly demonstrated that you think you're in my head when you are not. Stop it. Fuck off and let me cook.

Maybe it's this and that? Aren't all things spiritually related in some way? That said I prefer the Mayan wavespell calendar. Much more accurate for spiritual purposes.