I heard a story the other day about targeted harassment on social media and dating platforms.
What exists in The Nostr that would prevent anyone from spinning up multiple profiles to relentlessly go after an individual? Muting them individually wouldn’t solve this problem.
Are we more immune to it simply due to the fact that it’s harder to use this technology than centralized services?
I’m thinking down the road a bit, when we have millions of users and a better onboarding UX.
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Maybe allow white listing of npubs?
Web of trust filtering seems to work well. Nostur for instance lets you choose to allow only your follows, or your follows and their follows. Anything not from those contacts are hidden. It’s possible a few could slip through if they convinced your contacts to follow them, but those can easily be muted and would probably be low in number.
Is Coracle doing this now, nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn?
Yep, but a little more flexibly because you can choose a wot threshold. I also released an update yesterday that penalizes the score based on how many people you follow have muted that person
An adjustable threshold sounds useful 🤙 nostr:npub1n0sturny6w9zn2wwexju3m6asu7zh7jnv2jt2kx6tlmfhs7thq0qnflahe any such plans for Nostur?
I had some ideas in mind, some very easy to implement and some more complex:
- add a "nostr dunbar number” where if someone follows too many people its probably not well curated and could be ignored
- weighted scores based on contact list size
- complete pagerank-ish system but for pubkeys (track inbound and outbound follows)
I'll probably start with easy ones first, but so far I've put them all on low prio because the current WoT filter already seems to work pretty good.
💯 the current filter does work pretty well.
The simple version works amazingly well, but the more complex ones might be nice for powering an explore view populated with accounts outside your network
Not sure those work too well in practise. There are always ways to game the system if one wants. For example, using lists or some other ways to hide the real following.
Sometimes there are just different ways and styles of usage. For example, Robert Scoble builds huge lists and follows a lot of people and his user behaviour is not typical.
A follow/unfollow pumping is a signal that’s hard to justify unless it’s a software bug.
There’s a saying I know, ends with “there’s always a smarter idiot.” Same probably goes for socio and psychopaths. 😕 Gotta keep coming up with ways to deal with the challenges we face without sacrificing integrity. Easier said than done and I respect all of the open conversations and morally sound purpose I see here everyday. I hope too that we can keep it going long enough to matter. It needs to be sustainable and rewarding enough for everyone to come here and the barriers to entry are lowering but it’s never actually going to be for everybody. Isn’t it a conundrum to have this cool gauntlet and then say, “hey wait, this thing is neat because it’s a challenge to find… and I want to share it and make it easier to access, but not too easy. Hrm🤔” ?
Hard to know what to think sometimes when it seems like there’s a scheme in everything to also consider. Even that’s probably a whole different conversation.
You can’t save/help them all. Nor do many of “them” need any kind of saving either. I have things to learn in my life no one can fix but me, we all do. I’m not convinced yet there’s a greater purpose to it but seems like the kind of thing it’s better to give the benefit of the doubt and act according to my own convictions. That’s not to say I’m going to go dox anything, more like the people who are going to will probably figure out how to do it anyway. Better to find and attack the root of that problem if you can since your energy and attention are finite.
🤷🏼 What do you guys think of that?
