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What if I walked away from this npub and just started a new one? I could probably figure out how to clone all the important stuff over.

I doubt my followers (both of you) would mind that much, and I'm no infloonzer, so my clone would likely just be me.

One feature of nostr that has bugged me for a while is the inability to delete notes. I'm used to deleting most of my history on other platforms, quite intentionally. Sure, a relay might eventually remove your note, but another may not - so you have no way to know if your history is out there still, or no.

I value being able to forget. Being able to re-create. I've had to be way more careful to stay mostly anon here than on normie social media. It feels limiting, rather than freeing.

I may be free of being cancelled or shadow banned, but I am very much not free of the real world consequences of anything I say, at any point in the future, whenever my past may be examined against criteria I wouldn't be able to even imagine in the present.

What if, in 5 years, my wife learns how to use nostr and looks back at this npub's history and decides it was somehow disrespectful to her?

What if it wasn't my wife, but my government? Or the government of the nation I am trying to enter? Or a police or legal action?

Winding myself up a bit. Not sure how this plays out. I'll put it like this - If this npub stops posting, it likely won't be because I am gone. I'll still be around, just respawned under a new clean npub.

My social graph doesn't feel that built up anyway. Does it serve me? Or do I serve it?

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Ľḭṿḙśƫṟãɖãṁṹṧ💫#RunCoreV30 1y ago

Playing devils advocate because my mind’s not made up…

Inability to delete is a feature. Aside from privacy and secrecy, hiding mistakes doesn’t happen ‘IRL’.

Also why hide imperfections?

Your wife might find it wonderful you have grown. Or if you have real insane shit, it informs her how insane you are.

If you’re telling the world of your criminal behavior, you should be careful or move to a new npub.

I’m not sure what I believe there’s a case for it and against it

Sedj 1y ago

I agree it is a feature. And my mind is not made up either.

It's not what might be imperfections, insanity, or criminal today, but what may become those things in the future that concerns me.

Also the notion of whether or not social media in general, and nostr specifically, is serving me.

Bored Satoshi 1y ago

Maybe just keep it anon forever? Don't tell you wife or your government that you are this npub. If you already have, don't tell them about the new npub.

Whatever you put out on the internet will live on forever. It's even more true for Nostr as you sign every note with your nsec. At least you can claim normal social media screenshots are fake ahahahahaha.

Just followed you today. Guess it's futile ahaha

Sedj 1y ago

See, you say it all lives on forever - but I don't know that to be true. Not going anywhere just yet, though.

Bored Satoshi 1y ago

There's no guarantee that your data is actually being deleted by normal social media platforms. You're worried about your wife finding out about you but you're giving out your identity to the 3 letter agencies. Isn't that worse?

Sedj 1y ago

That's an interesting observation. On one hand, a hypothetical unknown penalty of uncertain magnitude because information that may or may not have been deleted falls into the hands of an alphabet agency (or just Alphabet) and is then discovered to be used against me.

On the other hand, my wife figures out enough about nostr to view my npub note history, or convinces me to show her. She is an insecure person, prone to jealousy and often feels slighted over the most innocent of interactions.

Do you see why one seems to be a lot more realistic and likely? It is almost like - there might be pain vs there will be blood.

I exist in a world that bleeds, but I try to keep it to a minimum, mostly.

But no, I don't doubt that anything I post anywhere is being catalogued by those I have not given permission to do so, beyond the simple act of committing it to digital memory at some point. Deletion of digital information only serves to obfuscate it from those not trying hard (or smart) enough to find it.

A.A.Ron 1y ago

If your two npubs got into heated arguments with each other, it may provide you with some degree of plausible deniability.

subkey2 1y ago

I'm using a subkey now. It's been a pretty good experience so far. First day was hard, but after that, great.

Michael S Wildcard ✨ 😶‍🌫️🗽⚡ 1y ago

54 here... Not too good at any of this stuff...people find it hard to do business without knowing, liking and trusting you 🤷🏼‍♂️ could always be worse I guess...

Sedj 1y ago

See, if I were doing business over Nostr, then I would easily cede this point. I'm not. I work a fairly comfortable fiat job that does not rely at all on my social skills outside of the company and its customers, who are unlikely to be on nostr in any professional capacity.

I find it increasingly easy to build relationships and trust, sufficient to do business, in very short periods of time. I could probably write a lot more on that...

Sedj 1y ago

Doesn't look like I'm running out the door just yet.

DZC 1y ago

In nostr your are able to forget, you can ask others to forget but you can't force others to forget.

🤷

ponymontana💜⚡ 1y ago

when you upload your content to centralized platforms they will go to someone else computer that, in case of public events, rebroadcasts it to a lot of other computers. You cant delete even on centralized platforms, see how wayback machine or any of your follower can save your content.

Here the difference is that every event is signed so is more difficult to oblivion contents with entropy (your twitter content could still exists online, but if more and more indexing start fucking up it becomes more difficult to find and associate the piece together. On nostr if you have the npub you can query the content, and if it still exists somewhere you have it).

Probably using different npubs and also burn ones that you dont feel confortable about is a great idea.

WoT is glorified, but who can trust a npub that shitposted a bit on nostr? For what purpose? Is something so valuable? Probably not.

Different for an influencoor that can work, monetize and influence with his singned messages.

In the end, there is the famous quote of the old man in his dead bed:

"I really would have been more online to cure my presence and WoT" -literally a psycho.

Electric Sheep 1y ago

Most of my online presence is under one handle that also became an in-person nickname. Never bothered deleting anything much.

Then I moved to China for a couple of years for an English-teaching job. I was worried my online history could be easily associated with the name on my passport and that I'd be denied a visa, or otherwise harrassed. Didn't happen.

I wouldn't lose sleep over your Nostr posts.