Replying to Avatar Dr. Hax

I'm not sure why you think electrics are unsafe. The Teslas have repeatedly been the safest car ever tested multiple times. Here's just one example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2022/09/07/tesla-model-y-gets-highest-safety-score-ever-in-european-test/?sh=a576dd94ff31

As for self driving cars, I wouldn't trust them either. That's based on feedback from people who personally own them. But that is about immature software, not about electric versus petrol. I'd have equal distrust for self driving gasoline cars as they all seem to be even further behind.

EVs already make more sense now and that's only going to grow. The EV sales speak for themselves.

Electrics are cleaner than gasoline cars even if using 100% coal power!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikescott/2020/03/30/yes-electric-cars-are-cleaner-even-when-the-power-comes-from-coal/?sh=b2efb832320b

Most of the energy in petrol vehicles goes into making heat, not getting you where you want to go. That's why they have to consume so much extra energy in comparison to EVs.

So, I guess we can just agree to disagree. I don't think there's any test result or article I could show you to change your mind. And you haven't provided any evidence, so you're not going to change my mind. Cheers, mate.

one of the first tittilating demonstrations i saw in highschool chemistry was watching elemental sodium react with water.

lithium is even more reactive.

i personally am all for hybrids, because they let you get more torque without having to tweak the engine for it and lose cruise efficiency, but lugging a giant battery around is going to lead to more and more frequent incidents of unstoppable chemical reactions because lithium metal will oxidise with everything, nitrogen, CO2, and release enough heat to make sure that there keeps on being more reactive species it can oxidise on.

hybrids could even skip the dangerous lithium battery and use a more bulky but far safer carbon based supercapacitor.

those who are against electric cars are mainly taking issue with the clear danger of both lithium and even hydrogen itself, which also has a lot of dangerous properties compared to gasoline or especially diesel.

part of the reason why lithium is so hard to extinguish is exactly because it can reduce water to hydrogen and that can then burn as well if the temp is high enough and the mix is right (hydrogen is probably safer than lithium because its combustion ratio is a lot more fussy).

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Weird how your "science" argument boils down to a high school chemistry experiment, but you have no explanation of how millions of EVs are not spontaniously combusting all the time. It's almost like the engineers understand chemistry and have mitigated these risks.

It's also peculiar that you seem to think the lithium batteries in hybrids are somehow safe and those same batteries in electric cars are simultaneously extremely dangerous.

Have fun not changing your mind based on the evidence. Ciao.

there's just no need for them, they aren't reducing the carbon output because they have more steps of transformation of energy that each one has less efficiency than a modern diesel engine.

size of the battery matters a lot, because the amount of time it's gonna burn for increases at least linearly with mass. once all the lithium oxide is formed it's not going to be dangerous any more.

and besides all that, we have the lowest amount of CO2 in the atmosphere we have measured in ice cores dating back thousands and thousands of years.

It's not that rare of a thing for Teslas to spontaniously combust.

Shit car self immolates - great result for everyone 🤷‍♂️