Are you a humanity is full of amazing people kinda person...

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Are you a humanity is full of idiots kinda person?

Humans are amazing, especially when you look at humanity at an individual level without any of this forced collectivism nonsense.

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Por que no los dos?

A person is smart, people are stupid

Maybe the issue isn't people, but forced -collectivism itself.

Just depends on the scale. On a small town or tribe level we are naturally collectivist and look out for each other.

Its when you go beyond that scale where things get dicey cause there is no web of trust and it becomes 'take from one entity to give to another' that creates unfairness.

Loose federations seem to be the only forms of "government" that work.

Haven't really thought this through fully so I'm mostly talking out of my ass

I hear you. 😂

Forced-collectivism and voluntary-collectivism are not the same.

One involves democracy oppressing minorities and individuals, and the other involves unalienable rights and individual free agency.

Definitely the latter. Look at all the wars for exhibit A.

Most people are incredibly stupid and incapable of thinking even a couple months into the future.