for the most part, only crypto/bitcoin people grok it, so that's another narrowing of target audience.

in other words, the most likely places to get adoption for nostr will be forums that are about crypto. i mean, i was working for one company that wanted to get into nostr, from the web3 world, their strategy was not focused enough and last i heard they ran out of runway by focusing on stuff that wasn't going to get them users, and i told them over and over again, focus on nostr, but no dice.

it is a waste of time and energy trying to get people to use nostr when they don't understand PKI, and the centralized media have nothing to gain by promoting that, with the possible exception of xitter, where the problem is motivation to get off that clown show and into some authentic engagement.

people talk all the time about orange pilling and purple pilling but they are not focusing on people who actually will not be put off by the nsec thing and the vital importance of keeping their nsec safe from loss. as far as adoption goes, keeping it safe from loss is more important than keeping it safe from being snarfed by malware. once they are here, they can then easily move from one thing to the next, one simple single understanding is required.

any other ideas about how to bring people here are doomed to failure, except maybe for close friends who are expressing curiosity.

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[True story of me trying to bring an irl friend over]

me: so this thing here is your private key, the important thing with this is-

friend: * screenshots the whole entire thing*

me: WHY DID YOU DO THAT I DID NOT TELL YOU TO DO THAT

People understand physical keys; your friend simply made a copy and shared it with someone they trust. 😄

They’re allowed that. No?

The problem comes when a friend asks, “How do I rekey me locks?”

I get paranoid about keeping the keys safe 🙄

I'm definitely one to lose them and get locked out 🤷‍♀️

This is the crux of the problem for all these decentralized solutions. Nobody knows the answer for it is not obvious.

There's too much overthinking it. I think a literal physical key, in pairs, that has two buttons. One sends the nsec as a USB keyboard when long pressed, the other does a... I forget, piv challenge auth like the ones that yubikeys do, signing a hash, using the secret, and holding both for 10 seconds, activates a tiny battery that fries the chip.

This way it's hard to make a mistake, the signature way is short press, and needs an extension or other interface, browsers have USB interfaces, I learned that trying to copy the firmware I flashed to my programmable keyboard, and yeah, a light on the signer button to tell you it's been asked to sign or derive an encryption secret. To make it easier still, you only have to press the signer key once and when it's unplugged, it won't work again for a minute, giving you time to fry it if you are under duress.

The keys come as pairs, and the keys have a clearly visible number, 1 & 2, and the package around it inside the box has a big, legible text saying "after loading these with your nsec, store 2 in a safe or other safe place"

I hope someone makes this before I have to. Again, overthinking. Normies need to get used to it, and I can't think of a better way to bridge them to it. Easy to persuade someone to try it as a gift, just walk them through it all, link them to you as mutual follows, and check up on them.

The advanced stuff can come later.

As a programmer, I can attest from repeated experiences that access is first, security is second.

You should make that 👍

yeah, would be especially cool with nfc as well although, it would need a tether