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Why dont we let people do their own research instead of trying to push something on new users telling them to trust you instead of verifying it for themselves?
Someone has to decide which node app to put at the top. Maybe we have to trust them a little.
You don't have to trust anybody when you just compile the binary from source yourself. That's hard. A better way is to download a pre compiled binary that's been signed by someone you trust and you check the signature.
The worst way is to use some pre generated docker file and some operating system to just manage everything for you.
Sounds like 99% of us are doomed. Not all of us are computer scientiests.
You don't have to be a computer scientist to download Bitcoin through a terminal. You need the will power and about an hour.
I'm sure you have the hour if you actually cared about Bitcoin. Do you have the willpower?
These tools take away your motivation to better yourself and you just mark it up as "well, I'm not smart enough for that" and move on without even trying.
Don't trust, verify. A key ethos of Bitcoin that you don't seem to embrace.
That's nonsense. The world needs these tools. And most of them aren't going to learn all that is neccesary. You say it's so easy like an hour. Thats just not true. Most people will always rely on third parties. But core incentives of bitcoin will help those who hold those postions stay in line. I want a world where it is more safe to trust because the money system is better. Not a world where as long as you are a computer nerd, your good and "safe", but still scared.
You say it's not true and you've never even tried. It would take 2 hours MAX to setup core through the terminal. Most of your time will be in downloading. Installing core from a pre compiled binary takes like 10 minutes. But you wouldn't know because you never tried and just assume it's beyond your capability. Stop thinking so little of yourself and others ability to learn. It's not doing anything but holding you back.
Books are words that other humans arranged with their own bias. Even better, now AI can do it for us!!! 🤡
In books we share perspectives. Great! Always helpful, but not neccessarily truthful.
But how do we know what is true???
There is a book out there to tell me anything I want to believe. Bitcoin, anti bitcoin, left, right, science, religion, up, down, 🤡
So which book will give me the proper "education"? 🤔
How will I know if someone is giving me good information?
To me, the closest to knowing is about surrendering to not knowing. Its about flow and silence that we find in stillness while being in tune with our bodies while present. Watch the animals. They don't know shit... And yet...
Personally, sifting through endless Information, trying to know it all. No way to capture it. Too confusing for me.
You may "think" I am lazy and uneducated.
I know...
I do the hardest work that most are far to afraid to face...
And...
What I need always presents itself right in front of me right as I am ready to receive. Could be a book. Could be a look.
Maybr we can learb more from observing nature than any book
Or maybe we stay smart.
I remember when I was smart.
You read multiple viewpoints and then use your brain to determine the truth. No individual can tell you what is true. That doesn't mean you can't learn anything from anyone else about what the truth is.
Okay. You think we are computers and our brains figure out "truth". I get it. You probably won't be able to hear me then. I do what I can. Consider there is more to knowing than figuring. We are not all knowing closed loops.
The fact that you're clowning on AI instead of actually using it is why you'll fall behind. Keep using your abacus to do math while others are starting to use the calculator.
I love you brother. I do my best to give you my love. Don't get stuck in that loop.
Love you too. That's why I want you to want to better yourself more than I want to better you.
So when I comes to the core vs. Knots, spam, opreturn stuff, do you think I have been misguided to my belief that core is a better option if I want bitcoin to be money focused? Honest question. There isn't really books on this stuff. We are kind of writing history.
Fall behind? I am watching the race. I won it all already.
Brother. You should never stop running. The race doesn't stop. Youve just admitted the only reason you can't run bitcoin from a terminal is because you've sequestered yourself to not being able to learn anything else because you're done improving yourself or incapable.
I hear you. I already won the race and found out there was never a finish line. No one to compete with. I am always commited to growth but it's not about success or winning anything anymore. I already did that.
That's like me as an electrician showing someone how to wire up their main panel in "only 2 hours". They still have no clue what electricity is and what it takes to live off grid and maintain a sovereign off grid energy supply.
Bitcoin is a deep well.
It's a deep rabbit hole, that doesn't mean it's hard to understand how Bitcoin actually works... You get program. You run program... It's that simple. You don't need to know externalities to know how to run Bitcoin.
Here are the commands to download, extract, and install Bitcoin Core on Linux:
**Download:**
```bash
wget https://bitcoincore.org/bin/bitcoin-core-29.0/bitcoin-29.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.gz
```
**Verify (recommended):**
```bash
wget https://bitcoincore.org/bin/bitcoin-core-29.0/SHA256SUMS
sha256sum --ignore-missing --check SHA256SUMS
```
**Extract:**
```bash
tar -xzf bitcoin-29.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.gz
```
**Install:**
```bash
sudo install -m 0755 -o root -g root -t /usr/local/bin bitcoin-29.0/bin/*
```
After installation, you can run `bitcoind` for the daemon (node) to start
How long does it take to type 3 commands?
Your missing my point. Repeating something and understanding it are very different. And using bitcoin trustlessly while not understanding how it ALL works is not ideal.
There is nothing to understanding that you are downloading and running a program. It's that's simple
Great. Thanks. Now I have everything I need.
Its so simple. Turn the key, the pedal on the right goes forward, the pedal on the left stops. There you go!!
You don't have to drive Bitcoin.... You crank it up and you're done. It drives itself.
Cars run all by themselves. They don't do anything without inputs though. And inputs can easily produce unwanted outputs like..... Bitcoin.
Your node will do stuff without input for the whole network. Unless you're manually using the cli to type out transactions, your wallet UI is going to take care of any confusion on how to use Bitcoin... You just click send or receive... Why are you trying to make this like rocket science?
So let me ask you this. How does one "verify" they are making the "right" choice between core and knots, assuming they are a half ass bitcoiner like myself and using an umbrel to run a half assed low effort simpleton node setup.
Start reading. Don't make decisions based on your gut. Use the modern tools at your disposal to help you understand. Take personal responsibility for your own education.
Both options present. Nothing needs to be done. Users can read for themselves and decide.
They are? Where is knots? I don't see it.
It's in the app store... Remove core from the home page for all I care. But now what, we petition to get CLN instead of LND as the lightning node that shows up? I'd argue CLN is better. If you're using some pre built "OS" you're not even really using Bitcoin anyways. Trusting container maintenaners and probably not actually using your node anyways.
No one is smart enough to veryfiy everything. We all have mostly blind spots. We all must trust at times. Example. I don't understand how bitcoin works but I a "feel" like core has lost its way. And I like to share my opinions about it on social media platforms. No one here should listen to anything I say unless they feel called to. I am just here to say things like everyone else. I am just voicing my opinion. That's allowed here, right?