Yeah the tv's seem worse than the separate devices, but they are all bad.
The real problem is that even if I bought a PC I don't know if there is really any software with a simple normie friendly UI to manage netflix & hulu & whatever with a remote.
I'm trying to update my parents' whole network & make sure there are no devices slowing things down, while also ensuring there aren't major security holes. I'm putting openwrt on some routers which is already a pain in the ass. And it seems like a waste of time to do that & then put the passwords into a $40 piece of pure spyware.