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It’s about sending the signal and building momentum… it gets picked up by media and makes it a talking point which then leads to education… education of the masses and politicians… politicians realise it’s a vote winner

Sure, exit fiat and move to a bitcoin standard, easy to type out now but we’ve all been on a massive learning curve to get here

Democracy is a myth

Peaceful protests are about sending the signal, waking people up, building community, momentum and education

FernandoTheKoala 3mo ago

agree with all you said, but I'm afraid that if the "medium" of changing things is asking your politicians to do something about it, then nothing will ever change.

Sure, maybe one thing will be stopped/changed, but then we will have the same problem later on in another form.

I agree with nostr:nprofile1qyfjqamnwvaz7tmsw4e8qmr9wpskwtn9wvqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsqzpl8hpfzul2qha25p8wd63gm46ufax95lfgnl8h9v84y3zt0k05m7q43ylr point of view: the goal is to achieve a state where politicians are not able to do what they are doing now (take away their power, aka money control), not allowing them to be in a position to do it, and then having to protest when politicians do something you don't like. The way I see it is a widespread long-term solution vs a short-term "on this specific case" solution.

We all agree on the goal, we just disagree on the best way to achieve it and where to aim our energy/focus. Peace and love

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Chiefmonkey 3mo ago

Nobody is asking Politicians for anything… we are literally building a parallel society moving away from globalism to localism and circular economic communities… we are doing all this anyway

This is about sending a signal to the rest of the population, building community, momentum and education

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 3mo ago

it's basically public relations, of a sort. the non-plutocratic non-malicious type.

IMO, physical protests especially large ones don't help us. the NGO/spooks are running amok cultivating their little farms of mind control drones to manipulate the outcomes of things. like smearing the legitimate concern the protest is about.

but i did rather like the petition thing. there hasn't been enough of that, the manipulators in their PR departments cooking up narratives to twist people's minds up and confuse them, a simple, reasonably verifiable several million signers is very good PR that the government can't buy for their nefarious purposes and can't easily compromise, unlike sending in agent provocateurs into a protest to start setting fires and throwing molotovs.

actually, come to think of it, verifiable petitions and polls on nostr could become a very important thing. #jumble now has polls.

eliminating the shadow of doubt around whether voters or petitioners are just sock puppets or not can be removed via analytics tools and protocols.

letting other people know that they are not alone in believing something is a very powerful tool for helping break the PR manipulation fog of war.

FernandoTheKoala 3mo ago

I support the message behind protests but I disagree with its effectiveness. Protesting does seems to me like "asking" politicians ("stop invading Palestine, I disagree with it"), as opposed to take concrete action ("Imma bankrupt you by taking away your control of money so that you can't do shit like this anymore").

Also, protesting is something you do 1/2/5 times a year? I do see it as the "lazy" choice that makes you feel good. Instead moving your time and energy into a parallel system is a everyday grind that takes way more time and energy, this is the hard choice.

We can do both of course, but this is not the best way of our time and energy and makes us scattered instead of united in same approach.

IMO and always peace and love