Even with this “juicy gossip” factored in, why the fuck would the conclusion to that be to push Telegram, of all solutions? Truly backdoored garbage, full of spam and bots. Ultimately, Signal is the best mainstream option until and as when SimpleX or Nostr DMs with stronger privacy guarantees are ready to scale with products that appeal.
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It isn't a conclusion, it is a comparison.
Signal is not the best mainstream option, because it was never really adopted by mainstream despite being promoted by western governments and left-wing groups, lest not forget it appears plenty even on holywood movies.
Still, Telegram has defacto been the best mainstream option without any of that. It is the non-acceptable option by western governments and yet used so often by the "mainstream" that they had to arrest the founder.
SimpleX is similar garbage to both signal and telegram. There is ZERO benefit in repeating the same mistakes of the past. SimpleX is a small russian company, that now received western funding. There is only ONE client implementation and ONE server provided by default by the same company for "free". In other words, they can easily disable any encryption for the "special" people as done for other options. You can't really verify and your messages aren't decrypted at their servers because you can't even guarantee they haven't stolen your private keys (tip, they are stored locally).
NOSTR is the future.
Hundreds of relays across the globe run by volunteers, dozen and dozens of client implementations and verifiable battle-proven cryptography that govs have a bad day trying to decrypt.
That is the reason why I'm here.
Agree re: Nostr but I feel the rest is just noise (I gave simplex as an example but feel it goes nowhere). WhatsApp uses Signal encryption. You may feel it is shit, and it might be, but to say it isn’t mainstream is incorrect.
If you read again, we were comparing signal to telegram.
Between those two, Telegram is ranked #3 in the west so it is a defacto mainstream. Whatsapp too, but that isn't really the same as signal.
Just call me when the US arrests Zuckerberg to complain about the privacy on his WhatsApp messengers.
I still find these arguments pointless. WhatsApp/Signal clear #1 by a wide margin, and represent a great level of encryption *for the average person*.
If you want to keep a secret, why do it online? Nerds just tie themselves up in knots over who has the biggest share of zero.
What is pointless is to consider that only something on top is mainstream.
With the same reasoning Twitter isn't mainstream nor Instagram.
You write stuff online privately because it is expensive and difficult to meet in person. This should be obvious, didn't they taught you that at the FBI?
