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Hanshan

at this point he probably DOES make more money simping to maxi zealots than he would opening up to monero bros

since monero bros are flexible and *will use Bitcoin if they want his products, its just inconvenient.

whereas the ignoramuses absolutely will NOT touch monero.

so while its more intellectually consistent and freedom orientated to take monero,

its better business to kiss the ass of Bitcoin maxis.

rafael_xmr 1mo ago 💬 2

True for now we're always just a swap away from sending in whatever to whoever, the problem is always the reverse, if I take only XMR and you want to swap in pay using BTC, your coins can be immediately frozen at the swap level, but XMR users are always safe from this

so taking XMR directly is more for the signal or if you want to hold XMR yourself because otherwise it is only strictly necessary if this swap bridge is closed

but if the merchant is lightning only there's very little liquidity for swaps so this option is not always reliable in that case

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Hanshan 1mo ago

exch had XMR -> LN swaps

i used that sometimes 😢

I think he should take XMR for the signal.

Monero is freedom money.

Jordan S 1mo ago 💬 1

I feel like the best way would be trocador's anon pay, or BTC Pay Server which I think he's already running, do a one month experiment, upchange 15% on Monero, and see the market signal.

https://trocador.app/en/anonpay

If the monero folks show up in force, and beat his monthly Bitcoin purchases then maybe that convinces him, if we don't then he's fully justified to stay Bitcoin only.

I mean either he's an adult, freedom, all that stuff, etc. but I wish he'd give us an opportunity to give him a market signal at the very least but anyways if he won't accept it now we all know he will in 15 years when Monero catches up 😎👍.

Zec is already climbing 🙃, so I imagine monero will catch up as well.

Monero is strong in most markets that accept multiple currencies, it usually makes up the dominant percent, or is slightly above, or under Bitcoin.

rafael_xmr 1mo ago

I hope monero doesn't do what zcash did lol very inorganic plus I don't have enough yet 😂