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Uncomfortable Nostr Reality check:

I've tried to Nostr-pill all my YouTube friends (some of them have incredible amounts of subs), but none of them care about the censorship resistance or decentralization. Even though they know Nostr exists, they have no incentive yet to come here. Their audience would follow them anywhere, but they need the tools to create community communications.

It's a sad reality, but it all comes down to usability, UX, and ultimately the easiness of paying and signing up for the community. None of these can afford to have a sign-up problem or issues with someone being interested in joining the community/their platform. It needs to work flawlessly and feel and look professional. Some of them charge $3-5k a year just to get access to this closed space, and people are willing to pay for this.

Another big pain point is community management. All of these YouTubers create these platforms to help their audience have a safe place to communicate with each other and build their own tribe.

Nostr is capable of facilitating all of this - we're just not there yet. We need to somehow invest so much more into UX and design.

All of this will come when the time is due. So, knowing that all of this is possible and that ultimately, Nostr will be powering most of these via the social graph, is what makes me extremely bullish. But also, let's not get ahead of ourselves and expect them to come already.

The UX and features are not there yet for these people. I am more than happy to help anybody trying to make this a reality. I want nothing more than having these people join Nostr. But I also totally understand their pain points. So, if you're a dev or a company working on this, please feel free to reach out - I can tell you all the issues they told me. Or just tell me how to best do this; maybe I can jump on a podcast so the issues are open-sourced for the whole community to hear.

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James Pierog 1y ago

Good to step outside of the echo chamber and hear some real feedback

Not too many ideologues on here will appreciate that though

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Max DeMarco 1y ago

Yes.. but it is the reality and we need to talk about it. Happy to get into this discussion with anyone...

James Pierog 1y ago

The reality is nostr is competing with the network effects of established and well capitalised social media companies. VCs love network effects because they are a wonderful moat for a business.

Unless there is an order of magnitude improvement in some domain, nostr is destined to remain a niche platform for enthusiasts of freedom technology.

Censorship resistance doesn’t mean anything for those who are not getting censored.

Freedom means nothing for those who are happy with being enslaved.

Looking at the state of the world, are you bullish on people breaking out of their reality boxes and seeing through the veil, or would they be happier to remain ignorant?

Lady Mae - Growth Teacher 1y ago

Very well put when you said (paraphrase): people would not care unless they are being censored or their decades worth of work are censored and lost their account.

People would not care if they are happy to continue to be enslaved. 👌

I understand that UX for average non-tech savvy would matter most to them. "Convenience vs censorship-resistant". I am more concerned on the security and longetivity of nostr which is critical to nostr's success. Early adopters understand the UX but let's not forget that we were bombarded by spam weeks' back. Thankfully these are friendly and harmless. I doubt if the adversary would be as kind as the former. Whilst I acknowledge nostr's need for improvement, let's address the basic non-functional requirements in relay and client level. Then we can talk about UX.

Incentive wise, the zap incentives is in itself value for value. This takes a different mindset shift. If we compare nostr to Youtube it will fail because it has different model. Youtube relies on ads and Nostr is not focus on ads but on zaps and freedom of expression.