I understand what you're saying and I feel like whatever works should be tried and what ever you feel like trying and what not.

There was a time when every hashtag seemed to be ending in -str, but I think a lot people concluded that that is pointless and actually confusing and bad for new member discoverability or what not. Obviously -str some still exist/stuck and are popular.

Communities are confusing, because they do in fact appear as normal posts on 'base nostr'. Just adding that only as a clarification or perhaps to further complicate the issue lol. I can't tell. Afaik community posts show up in all clients, mobile or web, they may just not have the labelling at the top which tells you which community it's from.

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Realistically, there is not much need atm for hashtags or communities, cos there really isn't the ussrbase for it. They're for potential future users.

And I'm not sure how that happens outside of a literal online community relocating here for whatever reason. In a large enough number for it to become 'a thing'.

right now communities function more or less as hashtags.

for them to work like a forum they need to both stop appearing in regular timeline.

and also there need to be moderating tools that work or at least make sense.

right now as a founder you can't even delete spam from your community - that is BS

> for them to work like a forum they need to both stop appearing in regular timeline.

Why would they?

Let's say people were using hashtags consistently as communities. If you want to take part, you simply search for the hashtag or (if your app/client has the functionality) pin the hashtag as a separate timeline that only contains notes with the tag.

> and also there need to be moderating tools that work or at least make sense.

> right now as a founder you can't even delete spam from your community - that is BS

Some work on this has already been done :)

(NIP32 Labeling)[https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/32.md]

This supports a number of use cases, from distributed moderation and content recommendations to reviews and ratings.

(NIP56 Reporting)[https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/56.md]

A report is a kind 1984 note that is used to report other notes for spam, illegal and explicit content.

(NIP72 Moderated Communities (Reddit Style))[https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/72.md]

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I'm a bit sceptical of no 72 though, seems a bit complicated to me.

Zapddit.com may do what you want from this already? I suppose like with a lot of things here it's a matter of other users ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

It's not particularly up my street as a client, but I suspect we are after slightly different things

> Afaik community posts show up in all clients, mobile or web, they may just not have the labelling at the top which tells you which community it's from.

I read that as just another reason to use hashtags as communities. No new NIP/feature needed.

Yep, fair enough. I sort of see a different use case away from the twitter-style feed which is heavily b!tcoin chat. But I know nothing;)