If Saylor bought, then who sold? Show of hands please.

Also, is he basically guaranteeing a higher price by reducing the stock ahead of an ETF?

đŸ€”Does anyone know the reserve requirements for the ETF’s?? It’s not a 1-1 BTC/price so what is it? 10% reserves; 20%, maybe even 0% as its just a cash in-cash out BTC price tracker. It’s not real BTC so it could theoretically be 0% required reserves.

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The legal requirement is 1:1 backing

Where is that listed specific to Blackrock? There’s legal and then there’s “legal”.

I'm not saying they won't play paper games, just saying that's what's required of a spot ETF like this.

So they could technically be sold out?

Blackrock: "Sorry, we're at capacity now. Come back for the newly printed IOUs tomorrow"

No one sells out of Bitcoin, the price just goes up. As NGU, you will find more sellers.

Assumptions. True scarcity has never existed in the world. We will see. We will see.

No that's not we will see that's just how things work. I guarantee you would sell some Bitcoin for something that actually made your life better if it was 10 million a coin. Everyone has their price. You can't eat Bitcoin.

Maybe. Maybe.

If you're not ever going to spend your Bitcoin on something then what's the point?

The assumption is on price. I do well, I may not need to sell anything. Generational wealth means future generations.

Oh no we're totally in agreeance. I'm just saying the point of saving is to spend later. I intend on leaving most of my stack with my children as well.

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What I mean is as in NGU "later" gets sooner.

đŸ«ĄđŸš€đŸš€đŸš€đŸš€đŸ”„Agree.

My brain is having a hard time understanding how these huge ETF’s will all Coexist chasing the only truly scare commodity in the history of mankind.

Holders will probably get wrecked at some point...

Yes.

Yup.

That’s not true.

Which part?

1:1

I’m not sure of the prospective ETFs in US, but in Canada the spot holds 1:1.

And that is the million billion trillion dollar question.

US ain’t Canada.

Forgot, world revolves around US 😂

Same for spot in Aus and Europe.

I do love my Canadian brothers. Even though it’s backwards up there.

It’s not as bad as the YouTube headlines tell you 😜.

But yes, there is a lot of shit they need to figure out.

They’ll get there.

I asked questions. How can questions be untrue?

Well, tbf your questions implied that BTC ETFs don’t hold btc 1:1.

Yes. I agree and I did that on purpose. Who makes sure that the cash-in matches the owned BTC? If they don’t have to issue anything but cash back, why would they be rehired to hold 1:1??

And what’s the timing on the requirements? Lots of cash-in and then they scramble to then catch up or do they need 100% reserves to even accept the cash???

It’s settled daily.

They’re required because it was the only way for them to get for approved.

They’re audited like any other etf.

Bitcoin is so unique and that’s why I ask. Stock ETF’s are simple. Shares are there & readily available. Not so much with BTC.

An open ledger is hard to audit? Wtf?

No, that’s not what I mean. True scarcity has never existed. I guarantee they won’t require 100% reserves (1:1). Auditing is easy, yes. Access to a truly scarce commodity isn’t. Gold isn’t scarce. BTC is.

I don’t deal in guarantees.

I’m basing my statements on the facts as they are right now.

I believe Fidelity will hold btc 1:1. Why would anyone buy a spot that doesn’t?

And once again the spots that already exist around the world, only exist because they are required to hold 1:1.

Facts & then the term “I believe” are in conflict with one another 🧐

I need to read the filings more closely. The big push for cash out makes me believe there’s games afoot.

Unlike you, I didn’t guarantee anything.

The facts are in relation to the spots which are currently offered and the application that fidelity put forward.

My belief is pure conjecture, and a guess. I don’t know shit about dick.

I don’t know dick about shit so there’s that. đŸ€

😂

Two dudes who don’t know shit about dick, probably got some of it right!

All in the percentages. Just keep slinging it & something will stick.

Doesn’t matter anyway, I’m not a buyer of these there ETF’s.

You may be once you can put it in a tax free education account, or a tax free savings account. Not sure what those are called in the US?

And no I won’t take legal advice from you and have a boating accident, or hacking episode 😂😂

I like to spread my risk, like a wet fart in a grocery store.

529’s for education in US. đŸ€”đŸ€”

You’re probably right about the tax free retirement stuff.

Too early to know how this plays out for any of us.

It is. Fun to speculate though.

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