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that's quite a setup, never seen one of these
bet it does taste amazing
The other cheap option is Nespresso pods. At my last job we had one of these machines in the office. But none of them taste good to me. And those pods are a rip-off (Yes, I bought refillable stainless pods, but the system still doesn't taste as good).
uggh yes pod coffee.... the taste is like pods are half filled with saw dust or something
i just drink instant coffee. honestly it tastes as the real thing. only reason i can see making your own is if you also grind and roast your own as well. by the time it is roasted the flavor is more or less determined and from that point on it's mostly masturbation.
this is my uneducated guess anyway.
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I definitely grind my own.
As for roasting my own, I can (I have a Behmor 1600) but I'm not a skilled roaster, and buying roast beans isn't such a big expense that I need to cut back on it and roast my own. If we hit nuclear winter, maybe I'll roast my own since everybody else will be dead. But for now I buy roast beans.
i never tried buying expensive roasted beans but when i bought bulk packs at Costco they were always so burnt i had to throw them out.
the instant coffee i buy at Costco is INIFNITELY better tasting than those horrible Costco beans.
i guess it all comes down to what you can find and whether it suits your taste.
The expensive coffee and all the expensive coffee making devices are all in pursuit of tasting the complex acidic fruity flavors of the source beans in a light roast. But if you like caramel, toffee, chocolate, vanilla, almond type flavors, these all come from the Maillard reaction during roasting and pretty much happen with any bean. So as long as you don't burn the roast (plenty do!) it doesn't matter which source beans you use, or which fancy equipment you use. Dark roasts in the realm of full city or vienna (not french/italian/spanish which is burnt) are "easy mode," don't require expensive beans or expensive equipment, and taste great.
Some coffee snob is surely going to correct the statement "it doesn't matter whichi beans you use"... because it still does matter somewhat. But not as much as for light roasts where it is absolutely the most massive factor.
i am opposed to high temperatures in general based on my philosophy of opposing entropy as you know.
i like to run my CPU cool ( always use the biggest cooler and most free flowing chassis ), i like to cook my food at low temperatures and i like my coffee lightly roasted.
all for the same reason.
i am not after complex fruity flavor just believe that heat is destructive and evil.
but i understand your argument in that the less roasting is used the more the flavor is determined by the bean and the more roasting is used the more it's just ashes and all the same.
i guess i'm just more sensitive to things being burnt ( any food, not just coffee ) than other people. i would much rather eat something that had way too much salt on it than something that was just slightly burned.
because excess salt will just get excreted but burnt stuff = carcinogen.
in case of coffee the reason people burn it is probably because of greed. they want more of that dark color and bitter taste associated with coffee for less beans used. i actually had the same dilemma with marijuana !
with marijuana and a glass bong you can use a heat gun and get high without burning at all - it just evaporates the THC - but the problem is - what if there is some THC still left in there ? my friend took a cigarette lighter to the bong after we already used a heat gun to get high on that weed but the weed was still only yellowed, not burned - and it hit pretty hard, but also we were all coughing like crazy because the weed was already dry and burned at a high temperature ...
as much as i wanted to avoid breathing that smoke i was ultimately unable to convince my friends to give up that last bit of THC that was still in the weed and we shelved the heat gun and went back to the lighter.
but heat gun is the luxury experience - you need 3X more weed for same THC hit but there is no smoke and no coughing - the weed just shrivels up and yellows without burning and releases the vapors that you inhale, after they are cooled by water and ice in the glass bong.
if i made my own coffee i would try to replicate the same formula - minimum heat - and it would not be about taste - just about being anti-cheap and anti-carcinogen.
We only sell light roast for this reason